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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Those scooters aren't sustainable. They're generating a shit ton of litter and ewaste, in addition to needing charging constantly. And on a personal note, fuck all these idiots leaving them all over the fucking sidewalk.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If they help to get people out of cars (including electric cars), I see them as a win. Orders of magnitude less impactful than cars.

[–] pieter91@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think that's a big part of the problem with electrified bikes, scooters and the like. As long as they are used as an alternative to more polluting and less sustainable modes of transport, that can be a win. But if they're used as alternatives to walking or unmotorised modes of transport, they're doing more harm than good. And I'm afraid that's the case more often than not.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 0 points 6 months ago

Disclaimer: My comment is just a superficial note on the topic and does not represent a qualified in-depth summary.

Yes, indeed. They would be most useful in rural areas, where public transport is not sufficiently present and could therefore replace cars.

But those are the areas, which are not as profitable as cities. There, decent public transport options often exist, which is why they often replace walking and thereby increase emissions.

But that also depends on particular individual factors like the electrification of those public transport modes.

There is some reaearch on this, for example:

https://www.itf-oecd.org/are-e-scooters-good-or-bad-environment

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.trd.2020.102680

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The scooters are fine. It's the rental business model that's shitty.

[–] Yots92@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Most of the people that drive feet-pushed motorized scooters are a danger, however, because of how conceited and selfish they are, as they are driving it ON THE WALKING PAVEMENT.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 0 points 6 months ago

Yes, because it's incredibly more dangerous for pedestrians to get hit by an E-Scooter than for an E-Scooter driver being hit by a car. /i

Nevertheless, of course no one should be an asshole in traffic, regardless of transportation mode.

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How much does a train weigh per passenger?

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How much emissions do cars cause per passenger and travelled distance?

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Jesus.fucking christ! This has nothing to do with cars. I was asking about trains.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 0 points 6 months ago

Flying fucking spaghetti monster! This is a post posted in the community "Fuck Cars" everything here has to do with cars! More specifically, this post criticises cars for their bad environmental impact, contrary to other modes of transportation illustrated in the post.

Why don't you look it up yourself?