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Image description: a screenshot from the Wikipedia page for the Doctor Who TV series, with a user-added caption that reads "Preserve the media you can before it's gone forever." The Wikipedia article reads, "No 1960s episodes exist on their original videotapes (all surviving prints being film transfers), though some were transferred to film for editing before transmission and exist in their broadcast form. [88] Some episodes have been returned to the BBC from the archives of other countries that bought prints for broadcast or by private individuals who acquired them by various means. Early colour videotape recordings made off-air by fans have also been retrieved, as well as excerpts filmed from the television screen onto 8 mm cine film and clips that were shown on other programmes. Audio versions of all lost episodes exist from home viewers who made tape recordings of the show. Short clips from every story with the exception of Marco Polo (1964), "Mission to the Unknown" (1965) and The Massacre (1966) also exist."

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[–] teft@startrek.website 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don’t even have to go that far back. Look at Netflix removing the DnD Community episode because Chang dresses as a drow elf (black skin, white hair). He even says he’s a drow in the episode yet Netflix removed it from the series since it was “racist”. Without pirates that episode would quickly be forgotten.

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Oh true, I didn't even think about preservation of different versions of episodes

[–] UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of Fraggle Rock. Due to the television station that produced the show being taken over many times over the years, most of the original broadcast masters have been lost. I think all episodes have been found but they're mostly at home VHS recordings.

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Oh wow. I've never even heard of that show. I chose Doctor Who for my post because of it's cultural influence and because I love the show, but it's just crazy to think how much more lesser known media gets lost the same way

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Thanks for adding the link.

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't have the originals, but I am happy to say I have all of the 1963 and 2005 Doctor Whos (with the exception of some new stuff... I should really get sonarr.) They are on i2p and I am still seeding if anyone wants them.

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

I'm still very new to torrenting, is i2p the name of a website or does it mean something like p2p?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Internet archives should be an entity receiving funding through tax dollars. They should be archiving a lot more of the internet, too, including all media. All tax paying citizens should have access to it through a govt provided email acct. Artists should apply for grants instead of relying on corporate residuals.

Socialize copyright.

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Yes I agree, we definitely need archival of many more parts of the Internet. It's a lot harder for people now to access stuff that is no longer "popular" (I'm referring to streaming services here) and since so many shows are on so many different services that are raising costs it's easier for stuff to get lost

[–] wharsmetoothpicson@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There was documentary done a few years back on the comedian Bob Monkhouse and about his obsession archiving media, a lot of which were thought to be lost forever. He had multiple VHS players set up around his house to record things in an era where not many of the general public had one. He also kept tv guides and had written into the margins if there was a change in the schedule. He was actually taken to court in the 70's for copyright infringement but the case was thrown out, though quite a few items from his archive were seized and never returned.

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Wow that's dedication.

[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is extremely common with media that is seen as "artless" mass market as well. Dr. Who was pulp and not deemed worth preserving.

Another example is the show that made me get into model making: Art Attack. A disney show made in the UK that was never collected or released in the original version.

There are some torrents of the Hindi version apparently, but that's all.

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

That's another good post, thanks for sharing