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[โ€“] dill@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nothing is oc.

There is a book "steal like an artist" by Austin Kleon that addresses this idea. Real short read and interesting visuals.

As for AI specifically. Ai image generation tools are just that, a tool. Using them doesn't immediately discredit your work. There is a skillset in getting them to produce your vision. And that vision is the human element not present in the tool alone.

I personally don't think terribly highly of ai art, but the idea that it's "just stealing real artists hard work" is absurd. It makes art accessable to people intimidated by other mediums, chill out and let people make shit.

[โ€“] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So an AI that is trained on many copyrighted Images from Artists without being asked, and then asking the AI to create from this Artist its drawing style. Is it not a copyright nor a steal?

I mean, weird enough if a person would do that it would be more ok than an AI. But the difference is that you as a human get creative and create an Image, an AI is not really creative, its skill is to recreate this exact image like it would be stored as a file or mix it/change it with thousands of other images.

I have no standpoint in this topic, I can't agree or disagree.

[โ€“] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is my problem. The tech itself is fine, no one is arguing about training data and making art from trained data.

But the source of all of that data was ripped without artists consent. They did not agree to take part in this. (And no, I don't think clicking "I Accept" 15 years ago on DeviantArt should count, we had no concept of this back then). Then on top of that people are profiting off of the stolen art.

[โ€“] kugel7c@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure this whole issue has to end either in some catastrophe or the complete abolishon of interlectual property rights. Which I already don't have any love for so I'm fairly convinced we should see artists and inventors get their needs met and being able to realise their projects as a separate issue from them effectively owning ideas.

[โ€“] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Steam bans games that contain such AI content because they are not near OC. Except you train the AI on only your own Copyrighted Images, which mid journey and various other AI aren't. They are all trained on copyrighted images without asking.

[โ€“] Kissaki@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They accept it when you trained on data you had the right to [train and republish on]. That isn't limited to only your own content.

[โ€“] Kissaki@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Original Content".

Is it content? Yes.

Is it original? That depends on the context. What do you ask about, in what context? Where is it placed? Which AI? How was it trained? How does it replicate?

If someone generates an image, it is original in that narrow context - between them and the AI.

Is the AI producing originals, original interpretations, original replications, or only transforming other content? I don't think you can make a general statement on that. It's too broad, unspecific of a question.