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[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Genuine question: why does bedrock exist? What does it bring? Why is there the choice between java, bedrock and "Minecraft for windows"?

How do you fuck up this badly?

I tried using the launcher to move a java install from C: to another drive and it just points there and doesn't do anything? Steam had this stuff figured years ago

[–] fhqwgads@possumpat.io 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because Bedrock runs on phones, tablets, consoles, and a host of other random crap, and does so relatively well. Because of that the install base and playtime especially among younger players is actually massively skewed toward Bedrock being the more used. Add to that rumors that the Java codebase at least was a terrible mess, and the performance issues Java edition still has to this day and it's no wonder they wanted to do a full rewrite, especially after having to make things like the console editions and even one for the 3DS.

The windows launcher is annoying though.

[–] UnityDevice@startrek.website 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because Bedrock runs on phones, tablets, consoles, and a host of other random crap

And it also removes Linux support. Typical Microsoft.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Linux and mac and any other x86 compatible platform that runs java…

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

Bedrock not Java.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm honestly surprised they're still updating Java edition

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's the version people actually play, and which has the furthest developed systems to do bigger stuff. Look up PaperMC, it enables some wild stuff for Minecraft multiplayer.

The server options available for multiplayer in Bedrock are truly pathetic in comparison.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I know. I've seen a lot of videos on the differences between Java and Bedrock, how Bedrock came to be, modding on Java like Feed The Beast, and multiplayer servers like 2BT2 (for those that don't know FitMC has some good vidoes on 2B2T; it's a neat rabbit hole to go down if you want to kill sometime).

What I am saying is I am surprised that Microsoft is still updating Java when there's so much money to be made nickle and diming players in Bedrock edition. Like paying for skins for example. It would definitely piss off a lot of the player base but I don't know if it would cause them to lose money in the long run. I imagine a lot of casual players are content using Bedrock and unaware of why Java is important.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Minecraft is already on the way out of the Zeitgeist of cultural relevance. The minecraft audience is mostly nostalgic grown ups now. Bedrock is kept alive by parents trying to have quality time with their kids on a safer or easier to maintain server space. The truly passionate and obsessed users, doing crazy and innovative stuff to their servers are still on Java edition. Kill Java and you kill Minecraft for all practical intents and purposes.

Kids are playing roblox now anyways.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Nah.

Distance horizons is amazing.

Never seen so much buzz thanks to distance horizons and now every shader is building in compatibility to make some truely stunning visuals. Let alone the insanely amazing mods packs and general content!

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's funny you bring that up. Because it's par for the course. Bedrock is the prettier Minecraft, but JE is the gameplay Minecraft. Flashy shaders and shitty LOD have their splash for a few days. But ultimately they are not what Minecraft is about. Same thing happened with ray tracing. People think they want to play with those things because they're shiny, but then they realize their old hardware can't run it without lag, so they go back to their obby maps and squid game servers that look like shit but run at 60fps and are actually fun.

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean, I'm running high detail shaders and distant horizons and my game runs like butter, as does my partner's who has a 2060 ti.

You'd be amazed how well fabric java Minecraft can run. For me there is zero point in even entertaining the idea of using bedrock.

I also run a java server with the geyser mod which means that bedrock players can play on it if they need to.

Java will always be the superior Minecraft version.