this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2023
0 points (NaN% liked)

Linus Tech Tips

3747 readers
1 users here now

~~⚠️ De-clickbait-ify the youtube titles or your post will be removed!~~

~~Floatplane titles are perfectly fine.~~

~~LTT/LMG community. Brought to you by ******... Actually, no, not this time. This time it's brought to you by Lemmy, the open communities and free and open source software!~~

~~If you post videos from Youtube/LTT, please please un-clickbait the titles. (You can use the title from https://nitter.net/LTTtranslator/ but it doesn't seem to have been updated in quite some while...)~~

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 21 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Sackbut@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is watching this video considered piracy if there are no ads to skip over?

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bro, the simple fact that Linus failed to recognize that ads are most of the time forced on you, with no paid opt-out alternative, had me cursing at him.

It's not piracy if I can't pay to get the product unaltered. PERIOD.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

YouTube premium is exactly that though, isn't it? Not that I agree with either side, just trying to comprehend

[–] joshinator@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

You still get their obnoxious "screwdriver, lttstore, waterbottle" reminders in every single video. Their 10sec in-video ads aren't that bad, but other channels have 2min ads within 8min videos. Which mean's paying users still get more ads than someone with browser extensions/modified apps.

The whole thing is a race to the bottom. People use adblock because there are just too many Youtube ads. Creators get less money from Youtube, so they resort to more and more in-video ads, and eventually SponsorBlock gets more appealing.

[–] hangyor@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This comment is where LTT started going down for me.

[–] penguin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I listened to an episode of the wan show once and I was out. He showed such disdain for his own audience.

Someone gave like $100 or something insane for a super chat question and he was rude to them.

[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Someone gave like $100 or something insane for a super chat question and he was rude to them.

Should've bought a backpack instead. /s

[–] bacondragonoverlord@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1526180-gamers-nexus-alleges-lmg-has-insufficient-ethics-and-integrity/page/16/#comment-16078641

Linus's response.

I honestly fully stand by GN in this and while I think LTT should have had the opportunity to respond to the allegations before the video went live, since this is the proper Journalistic thing to do, it should be considered that ltt has a huge audience and influence in the tech sphere so I can only assume GN didn't want them to get ahead of the curve? It's sad if it has come to this.

I also don't know how exactly ltt could respond to the observations GN made since it's a piece about what happened in videos they posted. They can't really deny what happened. All they could do is lower their head and promise to do better.

[–] sverit@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago
[–] sverit@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

We know that we're not perfect. We wear our imperfection on our sleeves in the interest of ensuring that we stay accountable to you. But it's sad and unfortunate when this transparency gets warped into a bad thing.

Yeah, well, that's one of the main issues addressed in this video: You are not transparent about this, when you swap out videos without notice or bury corrections in a non-pinned comment.

Listing the wrong amount of cache on a table for a CPU review is sloppy, but given that our conclusions are drawn based on our testing, not the spec sheet, it doesn't materially change the recommendation.

If the listing is wrong, who guarantees the lab tests on which the conclusion is based on are not wrong?

The thoroughness that we managed on our last handful of GPU videos is getting really incredible given the limited time we have for these embargoes.

Take the time it needs to produce correct reviews then. Who wants fast but false results?

[–] Vengefu1Tuna@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue with the water block is massive to me. Testing a prototype product on a GPU that it wasn't made for, giving it a negative review, doubling down on that negative review when called out, promising to return the prototype to Billet Labs, then SELLING the prototype to the public at their LTX expo. As Steve points out, if a competitor gets their hands on that prototype, it could put Billet Labs out of business. This is wild, and LMG should absolutely be called out like this.

[–] SexyPolariton@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

They didn't sell it, the auctioned it 🤡

[–] sverit@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here is his response: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1526180-gamers-nexus-alleges-lmg-has-insufficient-ethics-and-integrity/page/16/?__cf_chl_rt_tk=riEm65zw7EleA5UJEi3eN8ZaHnVo6Smg27vxUlGW5uk-1692115262-0-gaNycGzNDGU#comment-16078641

My take on it:

We know that we’re not perfect. We wear our imperfection on our sleeves in the interest of ensuring that we stay accountable to you. But it’s sad and unfortunate when this transparency gets warped into a bad thing.

Yeah, well, that’s one of the main issues addressed in this video: You are not transparent about this, when you swap out videos without notice or bury corrections in a non-pinned comment.

Listing the wrong amount of cache on a table for a CPU review is sloppy, but given that our conclusions are drawn based on our testing, not the spec sheet, it doesn’t materially change the recommendation.

If the listing is wrong, who guarantees the lab tests on which the conclusion is based on are not wrong?

The thoroughness that we managed on our last handful of GPU videos is getting really incredible given the limited time we have for these embargoes.

Take the time it needs to produce correct reviews then. Who wants fast but false results?

[–] sverit@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago
[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The part that struck me was Linus talking about how he hopes Billet does well because it's a harsh industry. It's a harsh industry for Billet because the biggest reviewer in the space took their prototype, mis-tested it, panned it, and then sold it at auction. Trying to paint that as a one-off is difficult, because it wasn't a mixed bag on the quality of the experience. It was awful start to finish.

If I'm a small company trying to get a name in the space, I'd never go to LMG. "Trust me bro, we dunk on stuff, so you know we're honest," is a bad take if you're the one getting dunked on due to lazy journalism and R&D.

[–] sverit@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that was super unprofessional :/

[–] jamon@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I started the video shocked that GN would do a video like this at all. I was 100% ready to blame GN for being petty. As I watched and listened, though, he made really good points, and I can't help but agree. Especially on the points where Linus doubles down on really bad takes instead of doing the right thing, insisting it doesn't matter (there are loads more examples than just Billet).

The one thing he didn't say that I wish he had, though, is to remind people that he's focused on industry journalism, not just hardware itself. This isn't a hit piece, it's an information piece, where he holds industry players accountable. Not unlike his journalism on Newegg and Asus. No, it's not positive, but it's honest, and it informs and benefits consumers.

[–] noobnarski@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, he didnt do a video to roast LTT and he also didnt insult him.

He just stated what he sees as going wrong at LTT and how it could be fixed.

I stopped watching LTT a long time ago because of similar reasons, it was just so frustrating to see them start a project, barely finish it, release the video and the not finish it.

Other times they made a big mistake in the middle and continued with the video "because we dont have time to fix it".

I prefer Youtubers that may have months between videos, but when a new one is out, I nkow its going to be a good one.

And if they do a project, when it has an issue, they either continue the video until it is fixed, or they read it in the comments and someday we will get a follow up.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stopped watching like 5 mins in cuz boring

[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Tiktok generation with short attention span detected.