Given the quality of meat at many university canteens, this wouldn't even be that bad
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Yeah that's how it is in Berlin. They have mediocre food with meat, and mediocre vegan food ^^
I have been to 100% vegan campuses (as a visiting chef for special events) and let me tell you, the Acadmics may want this but the students DO NOT. I say this with love (I have a bbq joint with many, many vegan options because all are welcome), and the stories I encountered were amazing on the creativity the students would do to get meats. Some students didn't even realize the campus was vegan (7th day adventist) and met with the chef to complain months after the start of classes not knowing rhe "bacon" wasn't just "weird tasting" it wasn't bacon.
Berlin has one or two vegan university canteens I think and they're not unpopular.
That's not my point at all. University is for inclusion.
That is why students choose to have their campus vegan because plant based food is the most inclusive.
This statement is categorically incorrect, and it is obvious you have never worked with a diverse student body. I have, with over 7 years experience in my own account and working with other schools. Students are at best contrarian to rules, at worst absolutely obstinate trolls. Let me spell this out: excluding animal protein is not inclusive.
Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant when I have already posted plenty of examples where students choose to fight and vote for a plant based cafeteria. Its very simple: everyone can eat plants, nobody needs animal based products. With a limited numbers of menus plant based food is the most inclusive. Special taste preferences can be accommodated at home.
"exclusion of one group is more inclusive " "anecdotal evidence is irrelevant compared to my cherry picked articles "
lol just because you made a word salad doesn't make your vegan point
People who eat animal products are not excluded if there is none. Do you only ever eat meat and have nothing to eat if its not a dead animal?
How hard is it for you to understand that nobody is excluded for not serving what their little meatflake brain desires?
I honestly don't think you understand what that word means.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/exclusion
So tell me, which group is excluded? Religious carnivores? Or is it only you starting to cry if no chicken died for your tendies?
Some students didn’t even realize the campus was vegan (7th day adventist) and met with the chef to complain months after the start of classes not knowing rhe “bacon” wasn’t just “weird tasting” it wasn’t bacon.
With all due respect, this doesn't happen in Germany.
Please do elaborate, I really am interested in ewhat the differences are!
The blatant mislabelling doesn't occur here, I think. A plant-based bacon might be called "vegan bacon", but not just bacon.
Sounds like a good idea but no way students will just adapt. I do enjoy the the feeling of being able to eat anything on the menu for once. Flip the script!
It would have to be a gradual process towards 100% vegan food, and it would have to taste good ^^
Why wouldn't it taste good?? Weird thing to say. Of course it has to taste good. And it does.
I know that I am vegan but the students might not know that. Also canteens can make horrible food, them having horrible vegan food would be bad.
Many universities had students surveys and made the choice for vegan menus already.
In Cambridge the students voted for completely vegan menus https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/feb/21/cambridge-university-students-vote-for-completely-vegan-menus
In Berlin 34 canteens have only one day a week a option with meat https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/berlins-university-canteens-go-almost-meat-free-as-students-prioritise-climate Many others are already plant based.
It is on a steady rise due to demand of the students https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/22/vegan-college-menus-on-rise-as-students-return-to-universitys