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[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Does taking prisoners of war really count as arresting them?

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

If you want to be pedantic: Hamas is not a state actor and its fighters usually don't wear uniforms. They are thus not considered combattants, which in turn means they can't be prisoners of war.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

aljazeera.com - Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: Qatar
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: LIMITED FREEDOM
Media Type: TV Station
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

Source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, there is nothing more credible than mediabiasfactcheck.com, the be-all end-all judge of what is and isn't trustworthy.

Times of Israel - Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Country: Israel

MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MODERATE FREEDOM

Media Type: Website

Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic

MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

You're kidding, right?

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am not kidding. Answering to your comment a bit lower as well:

There is no need to explain the methodology as it is very well explained on their website https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/methodology/

Everyone is throwing propaganda at each other in these times, there is a lot of false information floating around. This website tries to structure the chaos a bit. It won't be always right and can't deliver truth, but it does a very important job - assessing the credibility of media sources.

You might not be satisfied with their assessment, and that's okay. A look into your profile let it seem you might be subject to your own bias too. Maybe you could consider consuming some news sources additionally to Al Jazeera, just to get a more complete picture of reality - and no, it doesn't have to be the times of israel.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Times of israel is straight up IDF propaganda. Get out of here with your "fact check" bullshit. israelis truly have no limit to their shamelessness.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I did not know the times of israel before you mentioned it. Neither did I compare it to Aljazeera, you did.
I'm sticking to my opinion that fact checking is important, especially with topics like the israel-palastine-conflict. And people should know Aljazeera is a Qatari news agency with strong own agenda. This fact does not imply the article content you posted is wrong, neither did I say this.

No idea if you called me israeli or if you think israeli is an insult. But it is alarming to me and it seems to me you are more part of the propaganda battle than bringing anything constructive to the table.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

What an amazing unbiased left-wing news site. https://www.timesofisrael.com/lebanese-israeli-advocate-on-us-colleges-post-oct-7-many-dont-see-israelis-as-humans/

In Elkhoury’s view, hostility to Israel often comes from a very deep-seated dehumanizing attitude. “A lot of people don’t see Israelis as human beings. That’s why they go and rip off flyers of kidnapped babies.”

I'm not going to disagree that Aljazeera will only show news that is beneficial to the Palestinian cause. However they are NOT randomly making stuff up like we've seen many western news outlets (or even the White House for that matter) do.

If they make a mistake then it is because live-reporting means not all the facts are fully known at the time of filming and/or israel will not allow an independant investigation. Such as the case of the first hospital bombing where all the initial claims (and israel themselves literally saying they were gonna bomb the hospital) pointed towards israel.

My question to you: Do you believe that this Aljazeera article about israel arresting almost as many people as they released is false?

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If you read the comment chain again, you will see OP mentioned times of israel first, it is the first time I hear of that news agency.

I also never said that Aljazeera is randomly making stuff up. All I wanted to do is adding something constructive to the discussion. It is impressive how strong the emotions towards a simple bias fact check are, but that just reflects how sensitive the topic in the israel-palestinian war is.

The world is complex and everybody tries to construct a picture of reality that is as complete and objective as possible, and for that we rely on the media. But media is biased and the society you are living in is too.

Reuters is probably less biased then Aljazeera and aljazeera is probably less biased than Fox News. That's how media works.

So what can you do? Consider as many sources as possible, use your ratio, knowledge and experience. And to help you getting an overview of all the thousands of news agencies, you may use a little tool like the one I posted. OP has a profile with posts only from one website, and I say that's sus.

Regarding your last question: I haven't read the article yet tbh.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] gigachad@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

I did not want to say they are wrong, just give an objective estimate about bias and origin of Al Jazeera.

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Media Bias Fact Check is less reputable than pretty much every site they report on.

They have no credentials to establish their credibility. Seriously, try to find any anything about the people running the site.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Have you? Seems to be founded by a guy called Dave Van Zandt. There is a pretty extensive wikipedia article about the site. It does not seem to be the mighty tool for everything, but there are even scientific studies using that tool.

I mean seriously, why are you doing this?

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What credentials does this "Dave Van Zandt" have. What evidence is there that support his credibility?

Scientific studies use it because it's a dataset. Do you want me to point you to the hundreds of shitty datasets that people have used in the past for machine learning work?

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You claimed that you can't find anything about the person behind that website, I obviously proved you wrong.

If you want an honest debate I'd suggest to add something constructive instead of only asking questions.

You can ask the same for any other person, institution or news agency.