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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 89 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Morons, all of them. You’re not getting that genie back in the bottle.

I grew up pre-internet and still found plenty of porn, as did the hypocrites making these laws.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There was some way to either steal a "dirty" magazine, buy one from an older teenager, or check out the one you found at your friend's house that his dad had in a drawer somewhere.

If all else failed, there was always the Sears catalog.

Pitching your desire to block pornography against the collective sex drives of the whole populace is a recipe for you losing and look stupid doing it.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean there is a difference between the good old magazines and having access to super hardcore stuff for a 9yo... But generally I agree.

[–] CM400@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where is the line? I’m not advocating for anarchy and having no lines, I’m just generally curious where people who make distinctions in a gray area draw that line, be it censorship, what kinds of food to eat, social etiquette, etc.

Also, “I don’t know” is perfectly acceptable.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I personally think there isn't any exact line. Everyone has to make that decision for themselves. And something which might be alright in one communicy might be unacceptable in another. Like political debate vs casual conversation vs technology discussion.

I tolerate some mild trolling. I hate argumentative people, at least when they're wrong, don't listen but don't stop spewing their nonsense. I don't accept personal attacks and hatred in general. I don't tolerate brigading, mass-downvoting and such things. And I think we already have enough misinformation available. Any lies and factually false things can be deleted IMO unless it contributes something at some level.

I also despise people wasting other people's time. Baiting with controversial topics and then never engaging in the discussion. Asking for advice and then not reading or upvoting any comments. Dumping content and links from other platforms to make Lemmy be "more active" while actually turning it into a dumpster.

I think mods should be fair. I love meaningful discussions. People sharing personal stories. Learning things. Being nice to each other and doing literally anything constructive with our time here.

I tend toward being liberal. So I try to be alright with as much as I can.

I think most people have a working moral compass. Not everyone, but enough people so we don't really need to discuss what's nice and what is unacceptable behaviour.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can't wait to start looking for flash drives in roadside hedges 😂

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 85 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Easiest solution: point the fucking DNS to a family safe one and lock it behind passcode. Done.

This is how you "protect the children." Not by making a burden on everyone else. I don't need age verification on the internet, ever.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 45 points 3 months ago

Maybe they're not really trying to protect children.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Good luck explaining this to congress

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Some of those fossils predate combination locks. Good luck educating them on anything built after the 14th century.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they truly understand, we won't have this shit now.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

In the words of the Spartans: if

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean lock it behind a passcode? How?

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The router settings, require a password to change whether it's in family safe mode or not

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What about the kids modifying the DNS settings or modifying the hosts file on their own machine?

[–] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Lock the settings app behind a passcode too, there's ways to block things like settings... Not sure if that works for individual screens in there though

[–] Esp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean tbf, I think if your kid is smart enough to work out they need to log into the router to change the DNS settings then they can probably figure out how to set it on their end device too. Unless you’re also blocking VPNs and non-dhcp directed DNS requests too.

I think the obvious solution is to force router makers to have a more user-friendly way to enable child-friendly features (we did that with TVs, why not the internet?) rather than forcing websites to either shutdown or do sketchy shit like take IDs. I work as a tech for an ISP, I assure you most people can’t figure out (or are barely able to even with instructions) how to change the default wifi, there’s no chance in hell you’re gonna explain to them how to point traffic to a custom dns.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The main avenue of kids accessing the internet is via their smartphone. I'm not too knowledged into the functionality and capabilities of the built in parental by Google and Apple. Can anybody chime in and explain?

It will be nice to have somekind of MDM solutions, ideally free with a nice guided setup, for parents managing kid's phone.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Apple provides a lot of choices through “Family Sharing” where parents manage settings through iCloud. You can restrict apps, times, duration, content by ratings, websites, purchases, calling, etc

When my kids were little and got their first phones, Family Sharing didn’t really exist yet, but there were apps that might be more similar to what you’re thinking. However my restrictions actions were pretty minimal - mainly to limit screen time overall and after lights out

  • my kids were especially annoyed about blocking mature content on YouTube - most videos are unrated so the all get blocked. It’s just not worth trying
  • when I tried blocking explicit web sites, they just used other devices. While I expected them to find a way around the restrictions pretty easily, it was ridiculous how many different types of devices Id need to do that on, and each did it a different way with different capabilities. It’s just not worth it. Pay attention to your kids and trust them instead
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 45 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

American here. I approve.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

But only after you've provided your ID.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And at some point, they will blur the lines of what porn means, and bit by bit everything that meant something to you will be banned until nothing is left but what they like.

[–] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're already trying to label trans people simply existing as porn

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago

History is quite unoriginal.

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

After war on drugs failed you got to spend all that anger on something and find a new enemy.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The war on drugs didn't fail. It's still an ongoing failure.

[–] ahornsirup 10 points 3 months ago

Looking at it from the outside it doesn't look like a failure at all, it provides the prison industrial complex with an endless stream of ~~slaves~~ cheap prison labour. If we assume that that's the actual goal, it's a resounding success.

[–] androogee@midwest.social 12 points 3 months ago

War on healthcare ain't getting them off anymore, but war on food security has a promising future

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago

Who needs porn with articles like this

[–] kenkenken@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe there will be less and less reasons to use internet at all.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

An optimist, huh?