That's a stunningly bad form factor
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I was assuming a box that would mount on the rear triangle, but no. Threads straight into the derailuer in a perfect position to rip it and the derailuer off in one go making everything useless.
Oh, and its more ewaste. Cable shifters work perfectly fine, I don't understand the general obsession with adding more electronics and batteries to charge to a bike.
I'm with you; cables all the way. My experience with electronic shifting is that it is objectively superlative to cables when it comes to more than 11 cogs in the cassette. As long as your derailleur and hanger are straight, the shifting will always work flawlessly.
Hell, even my 10-speed go-fast bike sometimes gets touchy, and that's with Jagwire Link housing. But I stop for 30 seconds, tweak the barrel adjuster, and I'm good for another 500+ miles. More electronics in bikes gives me the heebie-jeebies, even when it's a proven technology.
I've had to touch the derailuer on either of my MTB a grand total of once a year when I give them a once over for maintenance, or when I eat dirt and rip them off the frame - not the drivetrains issue there though, purely rider skill issue.
It rather tweak a cable once a year, or heck even a few times a year than charge a battery every few weeks.
Hello folx, please help me... What is the advantage of this kind of derailleur ? I just see it as an e-waste. Do I miss something ?
It's crazy that no better system than current manual derailleurs (either wired or wireless) have not been invented so far, they are so clunky compared to how brakes have evolved.
Regarding shifts in general instead, better go with those embedded into the motor e-bike probably, if you use ebikes, like pinion or effigear. You will loose the possibility to shift gear in case of depleted battery though
Transmission systems have evolved and there are really good and robust options—they just arent ultra-light and ultra-efficient, which is what cyclists want.
Gearboxes seem great but they weigh a little more and technically eat a small fraction of power. I'd have one on my bike if it were an option—i hate dérailleurs.
Maybe my next bike.
Exactly. Derailleurs are the worst part of the bike to fix and calibrate (except spokes), but by fuck are they good at what matters. They're a few parts utilizing tension and springs to hold a chain in place.
Someone should invent a sort of ROHLOFF which mounts as a standard derailleur (or as a disc brake). That would be a real advance by taking the best of both worlds.
I want a Rohloff but I'd have to sell a kidney or something lol
Well yes, for sure it's overpriced like many bike parts when you compare them to motorbikes equivalents
I Just watched a vid about the rohloff gearbox hub, it looks a good alternative for emtb too.
Yeah true. Zerode bikes are taking it on. I have an older zerode with a heavy shimano alfine gearbox but the new ones are integrated with a belt instead of a chain as well.
They say they add approx 400gr: out of 20-25 kg bike is ok I guess. I'd like to see a switch to shift manually though
I can only imagine a bluetooth hacker pwning someone from 100 yrds away laughing as they makes your bike go brrrrr
I can hack your gears now 😶