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I often hear science-adjacent folks stating that a tree needs to be 30 years old before it starts absorbing CO₂, usually paired with the statement that it's therefore pointless to start planting tons of trees now for slowing climate change.

Now, as far as my understanding goes, the former statement is very obviously nonsense. As soon as a tree does photosynthesis, it takes carbon out of the air, which it uses to construct cellulose, which is what wood is made of.
Really, it seems like it would absorb most CO₂ during its initial growth.

I understand that it needs to not be hacked down + burnt, for it to actually store the carbon. But that would still mean, we can plant trees now and not-hack-them-down later.

I also understand that some CO₂ invest may be necessary for actually planting the trees, but it would surprise me, if this takes 30 years to reclaim.

So, where does this number come from and is it being interpreted correctly? Or am I missing something?


Edit: People here seem to be entirely unfamiliar with the number. It might be that I've always heard it from the same person over the years (e.g. in this German video).
That person is a scientist and they definitely should know the fundamentals of trees, but it was usually an offhand comment, so maybe they oversimplified.

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Young people - "Oh my god, old people believe everything they read on Facebook"

Also young people - "Some random guy on YouTube said it and I trust him so it must be true "

That's the end of my Lemmy comment, don't forget to smash that like button

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

I don't know why you'd believe that I'm young, nor why this would be a random guy on YouTube.

Unfortunately, I am very bad with technology and accidentally hit the wrong button on your comment.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Something you are missing is that, at night, trees respire. That is, they take in oxygen and release carbon dioxide.

Now I'm not sure of the whole 30 year thing, but perhaps that's part of the calculation.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They may respire, but they must absorb more than they respire, because that's where the wood comes from...

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily. The two things aren't related. You yourself burn way more calories in a year than you store in your body or use for growth. Respiration is not just about growing. It's about using energy for cellular processes: immune system, transporting chemicals around the organism, replacing old cells.

An organism can grow at one rate and use energy (expelling CO2) for other functions at a different rate. They aren't really related.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure, why you're interpreting my comment as a general statement. I'm specifically talking about trees. While it's theoretically possible that they get carbon from the ground and actually respire more into the air than they absorb, while also growing wood, that would be extremely surprising to me. Unless there's data supporting it, I don't see why we should entertain the thought...

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I usually hear the opposite, that growing trees absorb more, I mean that's what I hear when I talk about the Christmas trees

I guess people find the argument in favor of their own comfort, I never checked the facts actually so... I'm not doing better

[–] heeplr@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

It's true. And christmas trees would be fine if they'd end up in long lasting buildings and wouldn't need a lot of fertilizer which usually is made from oil.

[–] PhineaZ@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

I suppose it's more of a "that's when they start binding the meat of the lifetime-CO2-stored. Remember, trees also burn quite a bit of their previously fixated CO2 for energy. Perhaps the amount of CO2 fixed in the first 30 years pales in comparison to that of the next 30?