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I've always hated the idea of using a subscription/cloud hosting for password management. I feel like I should have a LOT more control over that stuff and I don't really want to hand all my keys over to a company.

All my secrets have been going in a highly encrypted archive with a long passphrase, but obviously that isn't convenient on all devices. It's been fine, I can open it on any computer but it's not super quick. It does have the advantage of being able to put in multiple files, notes, private keys but it's not ideal.

Anyway, finally found something that isn't subscription, and has a similar philosophy - a highly encrypted archive file, and it's open source and has heaps of clients including web browser plugins so it's usable anywhere, and you can sync the vault with any file sync you like.

Thought you guys might appreciate the find, password managers have always been a bit of a catch 22 for me.

Note for android i found keepassxc the best app, and i'm using KeePassHelper browser plugin, and the KeePassXc desktop app as well as the free official one. Apps all seem to be cross platform.

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[–] SpaceXplorer_8042@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Why did people stop using notepads (actual physical ones) for this? No digital storage, no leaks. Besides, after a couple of times you get the muscle memory of typing in the passwords anyway.

[–] Undaunted@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

I have a different password for each service I use. Each password is 30+ characters long and completely random with letters, numbers and special characters. There's no way I could remember any of them and they'd be a hell to type out manually. I use KeePass on every device I own and it's synced over my NAS. So it's super convenient and no risk for leaks.

[–] CarlCook@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I really like Strongbox on Mac for managing my Keepass-DBs. It is very well integrated and there even is a „no phoning home“ version that strictly runs locally.

[–] Rootiest@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

and there even is a „no phoning home“ version that strictly runs locally.

Shouldn't that be all the versions?

Why would a password manager app that uses a local database need to phone home?

[–] CarlCook@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Maybe I expressed it a bit awkwardly. The other version has some integrations for syncing with Dropbox etc. and some third-party libraries. Strongbox zero is stripped of all of that.

[–] ensignrick@startrek.website 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What's amusing is I am purposely not paying for bitwarden because of the check against darkweb leaks or whatever type feature when you pay. That's seems like an anti privacy thing. I understand it's a good idea albeit seems to expose a lot of information about you. I would like to do vaultwarden but don't think I can trust self hosting myself without paying monthly for a vps which I don't want to do. Home Internet hosting seems to unreliable to me for something that important.

Just random thoughts of mine here.

[–] skilltheamps@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

The bitwarden clients also work when there's no connection to the server, since they sync the vault. You just can't add any new entries. That means spotty internet is not that much of an issue in terms of using it. It also means, that every device that has a client installed and gets used regularly (to give the client a chance of syncing) is automatically a backup device.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe a silly question, but since I am considering making the jump to a password manager too, I am curious:

If I have a selfhosted server at home that is not connected to the public internet, can I still ise Keepass? Does it have to constantly sync with the server or is it enough that when I get home my passwords are syncing? Could that be a problem?

[–] nx2@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

If your server is not "online" you could vpn into your home network and use it that way. Another option is to have it local, meaning for example with bit/vault-warden you can still view your passwords if you don't have connection. But you can't edit or add new ones