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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29486510

Jason Paladino
May 02, 2025

"During Wednesday’s meeting for Trump’s cabinet, Mike Waltz checked the app on his phone, using what appeared to be Signal. As news broke that Waltz had lost his job as National Security Advisor, images from the cabinet meeting circulated widely online on Thursday. Upon closer inspection of the photos, it turned out that Waltz was not using the traditional Signal app. He appeared to be using an archiving app made by Israeli firm TeleMessage, which sells companion apps meant to enable archiving messages."

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 26 points 17 hours ago

"then he accidentally posted them online under his war thunder account" would be a continuation that surprises none of us

[–] zapzap@lemmings.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yep - and if you all want to see the serious meat and potatoes of what we know about Israeli spyware, check out TheCitizenLab at the University of Toronto's recent write up exposing Israeli spyware campaigns.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Nothing will improve merely with that, only change. It will just lead to horrible oppression first and bloody conflict next after people get enough of that. And after the conflict money just changes owners and new rich will start accumulating wealth at expense of everyone else and cycle begins anew.

While times of change are good for.. well, changing things there has to be some plan for the change to possibly be actually positive. Otherwise those who are good at exploiting chaos and instability for their own gain will just have free reign.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

there has to be some plan for the change

Yes, but step 1 of that plan generally involves getting the rich to allow the change

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

That is how the plan is put in action. You cant start planning after the gears are in motion because you have limited time to act. And even if you have unlimited time to act, you still need to be prepared to utilize whatever is happening. All kinds of people, other rich people included, will swarm to benefit from things becoming more open for change. Russia had a revolution that started soviet union and we all know how that turned out in the end and have to pay for it even today in form of how russia currently is.

And I'm not saying dont make the rich to listen if nothing else works, just that if you get to that point it will be start of something that either changes something or cements current status quo even worse and you shouldn't do that haphazardly or it will just make things worse. In fact, best way to do it would be to plan first what you do once you succeed. Though before even that there needs to be a group dedicated to this.

And as to how to make them allow the change, I think managing to turn the general public against them would be good starting point. Cant do much if majority doesnt take you seriously or considers you a threat. So people should be made to feel less alone and apathetic, which is undoing whatever the rich have been doing so stay in power. This alone wont likely do it, but it will support whatever might come next. At least its something anyone can try to do, for example by doing volunteer work that helps those in need, creating communities for people to be in instead of just rotting in social media and generally attempting to make other people happier and acting like decent human being. And if you feel more rebellious, getting the message across by doing stuff how resistance usually achieves it, like writing the message into somewhere to people to see for example. With enough repetition and time it might start to sink in. Just nothing that would make regular people afraid since that is the tool that benefits the enemy.

Maybe there are better ways to do that, but at least this is what comes to my mind at the moment.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Nah make them afriad, if they don't willingly step back and begin to redistribute their wealth it needs to be forcefully done by the new state

[–] db2@lemmy.world 151 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't have any faith that these things will actually matter. Nobody's going to do anything about it.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 113 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He isn't even gone from the government, Trump is moving him to be ambassador to the U.N.

And this isn't happening because of what he did, but because he got caught. He put on display how none of Trump's hires have any qualifications, and that he is a complete idiot with his denial story. He was then proven even dumber when his claims of no classified material were again proven to be wrong by the reporter publishing proof.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

He isn’t even gone from the government, Trump is moving him to be ambassador to the U.N.

The old tried-and-true 'move the priest to a new parish' strategy.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is partly why they didn’t remove him entirely (or kill him outright) from gov’t work. They want a close eye on their cronies who have or could have receipts for blackmail purposes (both directions here).

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What good are receipts when there are no consequences? Putin could put the underaged pee tapes on YouTube and it wouldn’t matter.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Then why hasn’t he? They still have leverage on Trump and that’s why you see him dancing to Russia’s tune every now and then.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago

Nah I just don’t buy the kompromat stories anymore. There is nothing Putin can release that would be a problem for Trump. He never sees any legal consequences and his followers never turn on him regardless of all of his crimes.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump dances to Putin's tune because he's a fanboi who loves Russia and authoritarianism. He doesn't need kompromat to betray the US; he's happy to do it.

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I subscribe to this belief too. There's no way in hell that an experienced spy like Putin would have any trouble manipulating the easiest to manipulate person on the planet (literally just flatter him). Plus, Putin is exactly the kind of guy who Trump wants to emulate, so he naturally looks up to him.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Strong deja vu with Russia. I thought the expansion strategy of Putin's relatives\friends won't prove successful in other places.

OK, nothing new, these things were in every second movie from 1960s-now touching upon power and governments and mafia. Just something went wrong, either in the balance or we see more.

[–] zurchpet@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago

Keeping dirt on the other folks in the chat room.