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Until some military rolls up on the border and demands at gunpoint that Israel stop starving, murdering and stealing from people they dont like, the Israelis will keep doing it. They want Syria, Lebanan, Jordan, and Egypt after they finish off the west bank and Gaza.
Sounds familiar. No wonder the Americans love Israel, they're basically carbon copies of eachother. What America did to the Native Americans, the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. Push 'em out, keep pushing until they get violent, use the violence as an excuse to keep pushing, rinse and repeat until they're all dead.
Not gonna lie. The analogy of native americans vs palestinians doesnt click for me. There were jews christians muslims living in relative peace before the plan of an israel was shoved down people throats in the region. This wasnt a new big island discovered by accident.
I would agree though that human life is equally important and displacing humans forcefully is always a terrible crime if this is what the analogy implies.
I'm referring more to the behaviour of the Israelis mirroring the behaviour of the colonists. Deliberately pushing out the natives, leading to the natives fighting back, leading to the colonists using overwhelming force in 'self defence', leading to more colonists pushing out the natives.
Take the settlements in the West Bank for example. The settlers show up, build their houses, kick out the local Palestinians and treat them like shit. The Palestinians retaliate, so the settlers call in the IDF to kill the Palestinians. The US colonists did the exact same thing, and even went to war with Britain (at least partially) because Britain demanded that they not push west of the Appalachians because it was (to the British), native territory. Granted Spain had also stolen a load of land to the west, effectively sandwiching the natives between two colonial powers, but Britain had just got out of the Seven Years War (instigated by the colonists) and wasn't keen to get back into one.
I was thinking the other day, and this is a bit off topic but:
Can you imagine what the colonists and “America” would have done to the indigenous people if they had the same tools as the Nazis?
America, Hitler’s little poster child.
“We didn’t bomb these people out of their homes only to have them return.”
—Israel
Genocide will continue until morale improves.
So, the Nazi’s sent Jewish people to concentration camps, did horrible things to their children (especially twins), gassed their relatives, displaced them… But they are now doing the same thing to Palestinians? I really don’t have a side politically. I just don’t understand.
How can you see this genocide unfolding, ethnic cleansing at a minimum of you're scared of using the G word, and still say "Well, I don't really want to take a side here"
This kind of rhetoric enables these war crimes. You've outlined yourself what Israel is doing, and they're going to continue because the western governments aren't doing anything real about it.
The least we can do as individuals is call them out on their bullshit and remind others around us that the genocide they're committing is entirely fucked up and unjustifiable.
did horrible things to their children (especially twins),
No they only did that to gypsies.
This is about colonialism not religion
I'm Jewish and I don't get it either, every Jew I see falling for this fascist rhetoric horrifies and disgusts me
Focus in, this the action of a handful of powerful and violent people, not the act of a whole nation with a subjugated past.
The people enacting these atrocities are just as much monsters and the people who oppressed their ancestors.
But the nation isn't stopping him. He's been voted in how many times. It isn't like the people have no blame.
I've seen plenty of anti-government protests from Israelis that do not approve
Sure, the decisions are made, the policies enacted, by those at the top — but there is no widespread repudiation of their actions by the citizenry at large, either.
Fascists gonna fash.
It wil not stop war at all, because Bibi needs wartome mandate to stay out of jail
Time to nuke Israel.
why stop there?
I think Israel will not stop the war until its forced to do so.
Cant wait to see the response of the "its just against the terrorists" crowd
Where is the “I won’t support Genocide Joe” crowd now?
Right here :)
I voted for Kamala tho
Eating popcorn. Where are the dems who will fight for their constituents now? Looks like they just nearly unanimously passed a law that will let the administration take down any web content the want, not just revenge porn or deepfakes like they claimed.
So thats the end of free speech. Trump said outright he'd use it to censor his oponents. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/04/congress-passes-take-it-down-act-despite-major-flaws Did the dems just not have time for ammendments?
So was all this trumpery worth it all so the DNC could continue to take AIPAC money?
Or the Laken Riley act passed with dem support.
https://rollcall.com/2025/01/20/democrats-senate-laken-riley-act/
We're deporting anyone now, with democratic party support. They are even trying to use it on citizens. Heck of a job, DNC.
Or when the dems voted to advance trumps budget-- about the only card they had in their hand right now, and they just didnt use it. https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-democrats-voted-trump-gop-spending-bill-2045209
And now you want to what, fingerwag like you have a leg to stand on here? I mean come on man. Show me proof beyond Booker sitting on the steps in theatrical protest that the dems are working some angle thats not just secret support of anything the republicans want?
I guess at least Schumer, who says his whole job is to keep the dems supporting Israel, sent a "very strong letter" to trump. So we have that going for us. https://www.yahoo.com/news/pathetic-critics-cringe-leading-dem-191116497.html
Yay Schumer, way to go.
This is it. Why the fuck is the blame on the people who didn’t vote for a terrible candidate supporting a genocide and not the fucking people supporting the genocide?! Why did the dems all support that censorship bill, when they were initially speaking up about it? Why does it seem like the more exhausted he populace got with trump and his shit, he more democrats seemed to use that as an excuse to start supporting the republicans? Where is all the “stop trump” and “stop fascism” dems now? Why does it seem like they’re done grandstanding about standing up to trump and seem to have rolled over to keep their jobs or whatever it is? Why does this seem all okay, and why is the blame for all of that on people who couldn’t stomach supporting a candidate that was not standing up to a genocide and was parading around the fucking worst of the neocons? Why is it always on the people who didn’t sacrifice their values to once again stomach a candidate that goes against their basic human morals, and not on the politicians continually moving to the right? Why blame the people who see the rightward march of the Democratic Party as a death knell for the country, and not on the people who are fucking marching right as fast as the fascists continue to radicalize? Why the fuck can these assholes not see that we don’t give a shit that you think you’re morally superior to us because you “voted against fascism,” when the party you voted for seems to be actively ushering fascism in through the door?
Where is the fucking class solidarity? These people are selling you out, and you turn to your neighbor to say, “well, you should’ve just voted differently.” We are well beyond this being on us. This is on the people driving the ship, not the ones stuck in the cargo hold screaming that we’re fucking sinking.
I voted for Harris, and voted for Biden before that, and Clinton before that. With shame as I should. Harm reduction, methadone instead of heroin.
It's nothing to brag about. You guys try to make them sound like a good choice, when neoliberals are for the same status quo, only minus the scapegoating. They're just a lesser degree of bad. They're for mass homelessness, they're for entire murder for profit economic sectors including American "Healthcare," they're for ever worsening income inequity, because on economic policy (that informs and often dictates social Ills) they're on the same take as Republicans. Just because they don't cheer and pour the blood they're drenched in over their heads in celebration like Gatorade, doesn't mean their hands are any cleaner.
That scapegoating makes Republicans worth voting against, but you're praising Jack the Ripper in the face of Adolf Hitler. No American should feel anything but shame about only having a extreme right wing party and a fascist party as our only two options. No one should have left an American polling place with a smile or pride for the last half century, it's been a rocketship to avarice diseased oblivion, that Trumpism is just a newer symptom of, not the cause.
Reagan toppled this empire, it just takes an empire a while to hit the ground. We have arrived at a while. Trump is more of a vulture come to feast on the corpse.
I voted for Harris.
But can you explain exactly how things would have gone differently in Gaza other than the rhetoric if Harris had won? She was all in on the genocide just like Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, etc.
Just because Harris was clearly the better choice overall doesn't mean she (and Biden) wasn't and isn't dead wrong about their fealty to Netanyahu.
Lebensraum