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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We have too many traitors like Orban in the EU. The work against us.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Why is the forsaken UK still on the map ?

[–] Damage@feddit.it 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

'cause we know this relationship has its ups and downs but isn't over yet

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Right, like the UK is a sibling that you hated growing up, but as adults it's not so bad and you know you're going to be friends again once they go through their binge drinking phase.

[–] Fabian@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] Damage@feddit.it 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still too close. The mistake of Brexit was taking such an important decision based on a slim majority, you need at least an absolute majority, 66%.

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[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly a lot of MEPs are in cahoots with Russia and hell bent on destroying the EU.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Cahoots is a strong word. They're all ethnic nationalists who sympathize with the wave of anti-Muslim hysteria echoing through the continent.

But when push comes to shove, they'll start shooting at one another over the border happily enough.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

or they just like money and power and ride the racism wave

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Part of the problem is that - between mass media and the industrial exploitation of foreign workers - there's enormous profit to be made in bigoted social policies.

The money feeds the media cycle. The media cycle generates economic growth for misery profiteers. You can blame this on The Russians if you like, as United Russia has cemented itself in the foundation of this cycle of misery. But (until very recently and even then still kinda) they're bound up in the same web of systematized ethnic-nationalism as their neighbors.

The Saudis, the Turks, the Italians, the Israelis... vast economic empires are predicated on the profitability of hate.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I ~~generally~~ agree yes. I would go so far as to say that most people in politics be them conservative like or democrat like are in politics for the seat. Sure their perspective may vaguely align with their party but most will jump ships without reservations if their seat is in jeopardy. The very few who are in really to defend their ideals or democracy, it is harder for them to go far if their ideals don't align well with power and deception both of which are currently entrenched in politics in many countries like Russia, Turkey, USA etc etc. And you said yourself actors with money also interject into this to make the relation between money/power and politics are self feeding cycle so that those without are forced to remain outside mostly.

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Economically and culturally, Europe is already a superpower. Militarily it isn't, and maybe that's not a terrible thing. Politically, it just seems to have a bias for moving slowly and by consensus, although it responded quickly to COVID and the assault on Ukraine, so it can do what's needed?

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

They're working on it

[–] seeigel 4 points 1 day ago

You have to use more sticks ...

spoilerhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces

[–] Hircine@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Superpower is such a joke to call yourself. if russia is a superpower EU is superpower x100.

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