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A bill to ban the use of the mineral in public water passed the Florida House 88-27. It now awaits Gov. Ron DeSantis' signature.

Lawmakers in Florida gave final passage to a bill to ban fluoride in public water systems Tuesday, with the state House voting 88-27.

SB 700, also known as the Florida Farm Bill, doesn't mention the word "fluoride," but it would effectively ban the chemical compound by preventing "the use of certain additives in a water system." The bill awaits Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature.

If DeSantis, a Republican, signs the bill, Florida will become the second state to ban fluoride from water supplies.

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[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago

The three people who still have teeth in Florida are in trouble now.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

the state is named after flouride, FLOURIDA

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 33 points 8 hours ago

The other state is Utah.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 23 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] oz1sej@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

"Sir! The radar! It appears to be - jammed!"

[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 1 hour ago

FYI it was a reference to parks and rec, where the local dentist (Jeremy Jamm) tried to prevent Fluorine in water so people had more cavities... because it was good for his business.

His catchphrase was "you've been Jammed".

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

As if people's teeth in Florida weren't already bad enough from all the drug abuse.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

meth mouth. plus meth gators.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 35 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

How can the bill not say fluoride specifically but mentions "certain additives". Surely it must list what those certain additives are? Odd.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It basically says you can't add anything to water except for "water quality additives" and has a fuzzy definitely of water quality additive.

403.859 Prohibited acts.—The following acts and the causing thereof are prohibited and are violations of this act: (8) The use of any additive in a public water system whichdoes not meet the definition of a water quality additive as defined in s. 403.852(19)

And then 403.852(19) has

“Water quality additive” means any chemical, additive, or substance that is used in a public water system for the purpose of: (a) Meeting or surpassing primary or secondary drinking water standards; (b) Preventing, reducing, or removing contaminants; or (c) Improving water quality.

Bold are the additions. The "primary and secondary drinking water standards" are legally defined terms where the EPA sets limits on maximum allowable amounts of stuff in water.

https://www.epa.gov/sdwa/how-epa-regulates-drinking-water-contaminants-documents

Personally, I would argue that fluoride is added to water for the purpose of "improving water quality" because water that protects people's teeth is higher quality than water that doesn't. If I were someone from a municipality whose job was ensuring water quality, I would read this as still allowing the addition of fluoride. If anyone doesn't like that, let them try to prove in a court that fluoridated water is lower quality.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

let them try to prove in a court

I don't think that would help these days

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 25 points 15 hours ago

They are deporting teeth too

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 44 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Yanks love to stereotype Brits as having bad teeth when statically your teeth have more cavities and removals (our dentistry focuses on health over cosmetics). Hopefully shit like this can fully kill that off that stereotype.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

what ive found out when i was looking for toothpaste is how many people are obsessed with whitening thier teeth, that alot of toothpaste have it. whitening toothpaste actually damages the teeth overtime, either via through peroxides, or high abrasive toothpastes. Also if your going sls and flouride free, they also tend to have alot of whitening products in them too. and these also cause ulcers and chelitis issues.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The UK largely doesn't fluoridate, so this is one of the (few) areas where the US actually does better than the UK. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_by_country

The UK does generally have better tooth health in the grand scheme of things, but it's actually pretty close, and the US is still really high on the list.

https://www.yongeeglintondental.com/blog/healthy-primary-teeth/

Without checking, I suspect the US's slightly higher cavity rate is more down to sugar consumption than received dental care.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

and also dental care isnt usually covered by most insurance so people try to ignore the problem til its too late.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

"yes we offer health insurance but fuck your teeth and eyes you poor fuck"

[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

That's only because we have states like Alabama skewing our statistics

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's also a diet thing and a result of people damaging their teeth with whitening and cheap veneers.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The majority of people I know with dental issues couldn't afford to have minor things fixed so they turned into major things.

Dental insurance is a joke and lots of people don't even get that joke.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

i had to wait 10years befor going to the dentist, because it was mostly unaffordable, one of my bros went to a dentist who dint take insurance but they charged hundreds per (whatever they were doing for the teeth), ultimately resulting in an abscess /root canal and then a very expensive implant.

the dentist reasoning is because insurance dont fully reimburse for the cost of the procedures, plus its a hassle to deal with in general.

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[–] Kcap@lemmy.world 35 points 18 hours ago
[–] ryrybang@lemmy.world 165 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Leave Florida if you can. Especially if you have or are expecting children. Moving isn't always possible, but if you live in Florida know that your state is actively trying to hurt you.

[–] JustOneMoreCat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago

I feel so bad for anyone who lives there through no choice of their own

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