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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If somebody tells you voting is pointless, they are voting for somebody you wouldn't vote for.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 19 hours ago

Casting a vote is as effective at achieving political objectives as using Purell a couple times a week is at eradicating COVID.

Voting isnt pointless, it's just not nearly enough.

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't really think that's the case. If you live in an exceptionally partisan area then there's little impact to voting.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That depends on your voting system.

[–] Noved@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right, but this is a Canadian community about the recent Canadian election. The voting system is assumed.

In my riding, if you only had the option of liberal or conservative and a 100% turnout we would still have elected the same blue brick for the 4th time.

Usually this just means I get to vote for whatever party I like the platform enough of/like the leader.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean we've got the same system in the UK tbh.

It's shite, and most of the time you can get a donkey in power if you stick the right colour rosette on it, but last election we did see seats change power that had been held for a century.

I'm not really prepared to shoot anybody to get change. Voting is all we've got.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I mean I voted but I live in Alberta and don't live in Calgary or Edmonton. Tell me my vote mattered.

Here's a link to the results https://globalnews.ca/news/11130642/canada-election-2025-results-leduc-wetaskiwin/

[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That vote increases funding to the area for progressive outreach and causes. You won't change the entire province with a wole new order but you are part of showing that Alberta isn't a lost cause to the left.

Seriously, this shows left wing lobbiests, charities, politicians, etc. That they can do something in the province. In the end all it may mean is easier access to insulin pumps or less cuts to medical services but that definitly matters.

It's easy to look at the big picture and grow hostile but your vote does matter.

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 20 hours ago

I understand what you're saying, but a 50 point margin is definitely in "lost cause" territory.

I do try to remind myself when seeing results like this that there are still thousands of people who aren't inbred hicks though.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

If you voted, it mattered

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How many people didn't vote in those counties? Did they not vote because they were made believe they got no voice or because they would've voted republican but didn't think they were needed?

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Any time someone claims "my one vote doesn't matter" I reply with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_close_election_results

Yes, there are a lot of elections that are decided by a very small number of votes.

As the saying goes: "The only wasted vote is the one left uncast."

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah, so the Conservatives won with like 80% in my riding. I voted, but I also wondered why while doing it. Man, I wish we had proportional rep.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"One vote never changed anything," said ten million people.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"me reducing my carbon emissions won't change anything" said ten million people.

[–] match@pawb.social 24 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Canada out there making us feel jealous with their "multiple parties" and "meaningful votes"

[–] Hazematman@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm worried our multiple parties could disappear after this election :( I understand why it happened but I hope the trend doesn't continue to a two party liberal vs conservative system in Canada

The Bloc isn't going anywhere and the NDP will likely gain seats back next election with a fresh leader, especially if they pick a charismatic one.

[–] hazeydreams@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Ya I don't think it will. Also remember we started with a two-party system. Political parties come and go.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 day ago (4 children)

When will the liberal party pass the electoral reform they were elected to pass?

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

how come no one remembers that WE had a referendum for voting reform and WE voted it down? everyone keeps blaming the liberals when it was the dumb ass population who fucked that up.

[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They will with enough pressure. This negative attitude is useless.

[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And that pressure comes from the citizens who never put pressure on. I live in a fascist government situation in Canada simply because I am disabled. But people like you would tell me to stop complaining that at least I have some support. I have chased my MP to no effect or response at all. I have done the same with my MLA. I have educated my fellow Canadians. I have ranted and raved for decades and protested about how we are treated as second class citizens and you all are not standing up for us. None of you. I'm purple in the face from screaming into the void.

You expect people to stand up for you? You're delusional. My experiences at the bottom of Canadian society tell me otherwise.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Pressure as it "voting for other people" and "nationwide general strike" or pressure as in "Thoughts and prayers" online?

Because the first isn't going to happen, as evident by this election, and the second hasn't achieved anything so far, and will continue to achive nothing because it isn't actually pressure.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (11 children)

That's such a strawman as I have never said to "only vote." There are many things people can do to pressure the government.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm Indigenous and I have family and friends who live throughout the north.

I couldn't believe the recent Ontario election for the representative for Mushkegowuk-James Bay ... the NDP candidate won it by 9 votes

And I have a ton of people in all those northern communities who all don't vote because none of them believe that it is worth it because they are Native.

[–] TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please show them these margins. it's crazy to me how small the number of votes are per riding and really puts everything into perspective

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[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah, there were a lot of close ones this time.

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