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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] toiletwhole@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

How is he not in jail already?

I just can’t get my head around this.

The fuck ist happening here

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Elon doesn't get it. He is neck deep in it. With his denying he helps the Invaders whereas with his allowance he would have helped ukraine fighting for their freedom.

He should be put on a list now imho.

[–] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Theatrics. The DoD can overwrite musk if they want, they have full control over starlink via spaceforce. In fact the DoD funded the whole thing, musk was just used as a front so people dont get pissed the USA installed the biggest satelite contelation in orbit that has huge military applications.

Its a sure bet starlink is still servicing ukrainian drone ships. The DoD just told musk to spread some disinformation so russia cant claim in public that ukraine is using american satelites.

Source: trust me bro

[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I also know for a fact that elon won't hesitate to do something for Reason A and communicate Reason B as his motivation.

[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

His ethics might follow some business rules: cut your losses, and the winner gets it all.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think the fact that to Elon Musk the morals of this are confusing to him, says a lot about who he really is.

Or rather confirms what many may have already expected for a while.

Russia started an unprovoked war against a peaceful neighbor. Ukraine is defending themselves, while Russia can end this instantly, by merely going home. How can Musk doubt the Ukrainians right to defend themselves?

As I see it, he can only do that by having no empathy or sense of morality, something he has shown in many situations now.

Also the escalation thing is a very clear Russian and Putin talking point. Russia call it Ukrainian escalation even if Russia did the same 10 times worse. The only escalation of this conflict is 100% due to Russia being the aggressor and their continued aggression.

[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

He calls himself a free speech absolutist and uses saudi funds to buy twitter at the same time. Then the Saudis use twitter data to give the death penalty to people who don't like them publicly on twitter and elon does - nothing.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alternate take: Elon Musk knowingly and intentionally prolonged the war in Ukraine. Sinking the Russian fleet at anchor would have been the most expedient way to end the war with as few casualties as possible. It's really really hard to fight a war without a navy.

The last time we capitulated to a dictator who invaded Europe, they didn't stop with just the first invasion. Just because Putin has threatened to use nuclear weapons doesn't mean we have to roll over for him and give him an easy win in Ukraine.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While I hate elon, this is a bad take. Ukraine and russia boarder each other. Most of the fighting has been over land. What good is a navy in such a battle? The most I could think of is shelling but AFAIK russia has been doing it's shelling with traditional artillery. Further, Russia's navy is a hot garbage mess. They only have 1 aircraft carrier and it's been scuttled for pretty much the entire war (and has constantly caught on fire while being scuttled).

The only wars that are hard to fight without a navy are wars where a significant portion of the warring nation and front-lines are near the water. That's not this war.

Not to say there aren't advantages to Ukraine sinking the russian navy. But rather, it's unlikely that "the war would have ended tomorrow if they did".

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The russian navy can exert control and is a threat to the hundreds of kilometrrs of black sea cost as well as the ukrainian ports being absolutely crucial to the ukranian economy.

Also dictators like their fancy navy. Blowing it up would damage Putins image tremendously