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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago
  1. And people will say "stop making things about race" as if it's over.
[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 91 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

...so this is some real pedantic shit I'm about to do here, and I apologize in advance, but that's the wrong picture. François Clemmons was on the show between 1968 and 1993. The original episode where they share a pool aired in 1969, and both men were much younger. The picture above is from Clemmons final appearance on the show in 1993, titled "Love," where they again share a foot pool. I know this because my toddler has become Mr. Rogers obsessed and I've seen the 1993 episode 3 dozen times in the last month.

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 days ago

It is gloriously pedantic, and it's good to be specific! Thank you for the additional info. 🙂

1993 sounds about right, because I feel like I've seen it & it didn't feel like an old or retro episode (neither was I thinking, "Why is that black man sharing a foot pool with a white man?" But I think my parents carefully explained why this was significant, what racism was (/is), and I thought it was ridiculous. Because it is.).

That's a good obsession to have, raise them right. Mr. Rogers was a good role model with great messages.

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

*Me, a connoisseur of pedantry*: "Aww yes, that's the good stuff"

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[–] valkyrieangela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It really hits different to know that this was only about 56 years ago. Societal change happens extremely slowly.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

And we are unfortunately vulnerable to regression. It's sad to think that if Mr Rogers was around today his show would probably be attached to an executive order to have his funding cut.

I don't know if a similar show would be influential in today's media market. Not just because it would be considered "woke" by half the population, but because the content would be like watching paint dry for a lot of kids.

I think a big part of learning empathy is wrapped up in learning how to be patient, and how to appreciate someone's company enough to allot them your time and attention. I just don't think people value patience very much anymore and wonder if our media reflects that or it's vice versa.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 13 points 2 days ago

I know! I'm in my 40s and queer, I'm always stunned by how different young people's attitudes are to lgbt now.

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Just wait until you hear that the US fully repealed all laws penalizing sodomy (which included homosexual intercourse) between two consenting adults in 2003, when the Supreme Court declared that such laws were unconstitutional under the equal protection clause (Lawrence V Texas).

The progress in that regard was fortunately very quick. In 2009, first states started legalizing gay marriage, in 2013 SCOTUS decided that even gay pairs from states that banned gay marriage can receive benefits if they have a valid marriage license from a states that allowed it (US v Windsor), striking down the shameful Defense of Marriage Act, and in 2015, it was at last decided that the constitution protects gay marriage, making it legal in all states (Oberfeller et al V Hodges). In 2020, in an opinion paradoxically written by Neil Gorsuch, a Trump appointee, the court decided that the protection guaranteed by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 applied to LGBTQ folks as well (Bostock V Clayton County).

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 122 points 3 days ago (6 children)

The image misses part of the story. He was a character on the show, officer Clemmons, and wasn't just on this episode. And what's more, he was gay and Fred Rogers knew and accepted him for it at a time that that was uncommon. This image makes it seem like a single random act of impersonal kindness but it was much more than that.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lovely interview with (Officer) Francois Clemmons. Clemmons grew up during civil rights unrest and was firehosed and beaten by cops and did not want to play one on TV. I don't know if making kids less scared of cops was a good thing or not, but I know Mr. Rogers' heart was in the right place.

https://youtu.be/UD7Z-O7U33c

The song at the end is the one Clemmons sang while they were hanging out in the pool the second time they did this scene 20 years after the first one: "There are many ways to say I love you." In this one Mr. Rogers dried Officer Clemmons' feet as they were getting out of the pool.

[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 14 points 2 days ago

There’s a rapper named prof that did a pretty spot on Mr Roger’s imitation in one of his videos. They included a different take on this scene, but I had no idea that they were referencing an actual Mr Roger’s video with that part until just now.

https://youtu.be/iDaUy4T7rVI

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

Also better that he just played a cop, instead of actually being one

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago

Classic Mr. Rogers story that when you dig deeper, it's even more wholesome than initially presented.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 141 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Your reminder that Fox News hated Mister Rogers and everything he believed.

https://youtu.be/29lmR_357rA

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 65 points 3 days ago

That’s when you know you’re winning.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago (5 children)

"Two dudes chilling in a hot tub, two feet apart cause they're not racist."

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[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Remember, Mr Rogers was a good neighbor. He was also a marine scout sniper. He wouldn't have put up with the shit that's happening now.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Almost exactly 56 years ago when Senators were cutting PBS budgets because they don't understand the importance of childhood education and mental health

https://youtu.be/fKy7ljRr0AA

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh trust me, they do understand the importance of education. That's why they cut funding.

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[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] takeda@lemm.ee 105 points 3 days ago (14 children)

No need, he only played a cop on the show, his real occupation was singer, actor & lecturer.

[–] caboose2006@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago

We need 100,000 more Mr. Rogers in the world. 1,000,000 more.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago (4 children)

it's funny. anyone who actually watched Mr Rogers should know what I'm about to say.

he didn't want everybody to be just like him. he wanted to inspire children to be better versions of themselves.

frankly, I'm not a nice person. never want to be, but I do try to be a good person.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I grew up on Mr. Rogers, Bob Ross, etc. They’re a big part of what shaped me and made me empathetic. I live a good life but the world around me (the US) is determined to make me bitter and angry, and it’s an everyday struggle to keep my mind above water.

I know if he were around today, he would still manage to always keep a cool head and a grounded spirit, despite knowing where this country is headed.

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[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 3 days ago

Some people just want to watch the world learn...

[–] Vraylle@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 3 days ago

And republicans have never forgiven him for this.

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