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[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How about we don't and just let original good ideas float to the top and stop all the pop culture fracking.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like The Flophouse (or RLM’s?) idea of only remaking bad movies.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah i love that idea and hell of they want to show that new movie to the next generation just reshow it in theaters like the Drafthouse does. No need to make a special edition or whatever just shows it as is with current theater tech.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As people love to point out, some legendary movies are remakes — eg The Wizard Of Oz and John Carpenter’s The Thing. The difference is that they’re great. And even The Wizard Of Oz had a sequel and a remake that were interesting, if not as beloved.

Good things are good. Hot take, I know.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The wizard of oz did have s sequel gave tons of children nightmares. Yeah if they were all good then no one would noticed. Also I think with the wizard of oz as an example it being a remake is okay becase it's trying to be it's own thing not sending half the movie trying to get me to point at the screen or making the movie just for the YouTubers making top 10 Easter Eggs that were big enough to roll over indy and you totally didn't miss.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True, the memberberries are awful. And as much as I loved Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade screenwriters have been going back to the well of “and here’s how he got his hat, here’s how he got his whip, here’s how he got that scar…” far too often. Enough already.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah too busy on building lore to tell a good story. It's like all writers these days are from the fanfic community.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Right — that, or rehashing the hero’s origin story for the nth time. Or expecting you to be neck deep in a cinematic universe to understand why the audience is excited.

As others have pointed out, the reveal in the newer Star Trek movie that the villain’s name is Kahn means nothing if you haven’t seen a movie from the early eighties, and even then isn’t terribly interesting in and of itself.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah i remember a interview with Terry Matalas about star trek picard season 3. Where when he talked about writing the season he was all about not going on about the story beats but however to weave the story from one legacy thing to the next.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have always been of the mind that sequels do not change how I feel about the original, no matter how terrible. Then Fight Club 2 came along and challenged my very existence to the core.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never knew about Fight Club 2...do I dare. How bad are we talking?

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The nameless protagonist is given the name Sebastian.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Agreed the only one that I disagree with is star wars since we can't see the original. I have the belief that it's isn't just yours when you put art out there. You may own the copyright but you can't tell me the version i enjoyed is wrong. But other than that I agree. New trek can never take away old trek. But a HD remaster of DS9 would be appreciated.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is turning The Princess Bride into a musical not a good idea?

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because princess bride is perfectly fine as a film and that effort and money could be put into creating new stories instead of recycling known IP.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If this was going to be a film and not a stage production, I would agree.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I mean if you enjoy it i would never shit on your parade i just go to plays and musicals on the regular and I have noticed originals shows not based on an IP shrink smaller and smaller on the season. I think last year it was all but 3 out of 10 Hadestown , shucked, and come from away and 2 of those 3 are repeats from years prior.

[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Say, how much longer on the copyright?

[–] will_a113@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Long damn time. If they're basing the play on the movie (a work-for-hire), it was released in 1987, so its copyright expires in 2082 (1987 + 95). If based on the book (a sole-authorship, so author's death + 70), William Goldman died in 2018, so the book's copyright will expire in 2088 (2018 + 70).

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Forever and a day. Thanks, Disney, for constantly stealing from the public domain and contributing nothing back.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago
[–] will_a113@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

I dunno, we recently got like a half dozen Winnie the Pooh and steamboat Willie- themed slasher flicks. That’s … something, right?

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You know what? Go for it. Only existing brands get adapted these days and this is a good one. The book is different from the movie and both are very wink-and-nod about the creative pursuits. Maybe it will be good. Maybe it will suck. More even than other "franchises," a crappy musical would take nothing away from a good book and a great movie.