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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a first gen framework and I really like it. Having the ports behave differently on this AMD does seem a little annoying but I guess you'd get used to it.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's an alright compromise. I rarely move my expansion cards around. I use four USB-C cards and sometimes swap one out for a storage card that has Windows installed on it.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also don't move them often, it's interesting they weren't able to get all 4 the same though. I haven't read anything that actually explains it. I guess the CPU can only handle that configuration.

[–] round_circle@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

The Ryzen 7840U and 7640U, by specification, support 2 USB 4 ports and 2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 ports. So it seems that's just a limitation by the architecture.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I lost all interest the moment I saw that it has no dedicated GPU.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you want one in a laptop?

They produce too much heat

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd imagine for graphics intensive tasks and they'll have to be moving the device around?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you would use an external gpu

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So every time you move say from home to school you'd have to bring an external device? What's the point of that?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah mean like how you’re bringing the laptop?

I’d also recommend an external drive of some sort, and a keyboard/mouse

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So someone needs the extra gpu power from a dGPU in a handy form factor like laptop and you suggest an external gpu for... what benefit? I don't get it. Seems like you've just made the moving around part more cumbersome for no extra benefit.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you think moving around a laptop + gpu dock is more cumbersome than moving a desktop around then good on you

Compared to laptops with a built in dGPU then the benefits are lifespan, power, affordability

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you think moving around a laptop + gpu dock is more cumbersome than moving a desktop around then good on you

We were talking about why someone would get a laptop with a dGPU...

Compared to laptops with a built in dGPU then the benefits are lifespan, power, affordability

I'm getting the opposite results for power and affordability when looking at articles. Though for power it's just same as dGPU vs eGPU which probably wouldn't be the case, you could get a proper desktop GPU but that would also use more energy, so not ideal. Also the solutions seem pretty costly.

But the point is that there's definitely a good reason to have a laptop with a dedicated GPU. You want graphics power but you also want it in a laptop form factor for moving it around. Say you'll need it for school so you'll be moving it around five days of the week. eGPU might work if someone really doesn't want a dGPU and needs the GPU power, but it doesn't seem like the handiest solution. You might not want to deal with carrying more stuff and having to set it up almost daily. Just getting a dGPU would be much simpler.

[–] FuzzChef@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

What do you need a dedicated GPU in school for?