I guess? But it's also morally just to reuse disposables, repair instead of replace, conserve and reduce waste, and delay new purchases as long as possible. I'm doing environmental conservationism just by being poor!
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Wait till you realize morality is shitty fucked up crutch that doesn't work at best and a tool to control people at... usual, not even the worst
Is this an anarchist perspective? Just trying to see what your broader view might be.
No, I don't expect there to be any ready label for this. In a nutshell:
- humans are as much part of life on this planet as everything else. the "killing is wrong" kind of maxims is just plain bullshit, just go watch how other forms of life take care of their sustenance
- moral dilemmas show by their existence that pretty much any widespread "morally right" way to behave has its limits, yet those limits are somehow "omitted" from most sources that are supposed to teach people what is good and what is bad
also, "good" and "bad" do not actually exist: you can vaporise whole Earth and rest of the universe won't even notice
- still there is a vivid difference between a kind soul attending to a garden a feeding stray cats and dogs who happen to come by and an idiot torturing kittens in front of their mother just for fun, even seeing these situations produces very different experiences. Substitute humans here with animals and appropriate behaviour, the difference will still stand. So there is some kind of "this is in line with how all life longs to be", "that is not how mature and balanced living creatures operate", but I have no clue even what level to look at to find that difference
I appreciate you giving me your candid opinion. I find some of it fascinating, from the perspective that you're not just subscribing to some brand of nihilism or whatever.
I do agree with some of it, from a lay persons perspective. I'm no philosopher and I'm certain someone might be much more qualified to tell you all about the origins of your belief. Like you talk about some simple coping strategies like, "good and bad being inconsequential when compared to an infinitely large universe." These are just copes we develop to reconcile the brutal nature of the world.
Getting back to morality, i think, the more we are separated from the "bad thing" that happened the harder it is to apply a moral framework around it and even if you did, trying to teach that framework on a scale that will reach everyone is mostly impossible.
So end of the day we are still just picking battles, which is usually just harm reduction.
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Don't use being poor to justify your shitty choices bro, wtf? Trash take.
You just assume I'm poor. Nice.
Simple. Trashy. But simple.
According to Lemmy all poor people are good.
Tell that to Juan, the homeless I personally know that has not done anything bad, and have been always an angel. He had never hurt or steal anyone and he doesn't even have a roof over his head.
But according to Lemmy shitheads that kill, steal and rape have the same moral merit as Juan because they are not rich.
I'm sorry but this is fucking stupid. WHO is calling WHAT immoral? Someone babbling on recycling, who the fuck cares about recycling?
Poorest people are 100% capable of making choices that align with their personal values as anyone else. This is such a fucking Christian thread. What, do you think morals come from the Bible? what a joke
There ya go. Yes, 'threading a moral needle with bad choices' is all just pure imagery. Nothing real was said. There's no actual situation under discussion, just vapor.
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