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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia is a terrorist country. Terrorists can't be negotiated with. #SlavaUkraini

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Slava Ukraini was literally the battle cry of the OUN, which collaborated in the holocaust. Find a different motto.

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"ahhhhhh splat" is the current warcry of the woefully unprepared orcs getting slaughtered in a war that could end today. maybe you guys could at least come up with something original before winding up as compost?

as expected tankies and brain-dead conservatives take issue with the fact I'm mocking the vatniks out there being converted into soil. guess what? I give as much a shit about you guys as the decomposing corpses of the mobiks, and find your opinions on the topic to be as usual, laughably silly and predictable. no, I'm not gonna have any need to humanise a bunch of trash that are invading another country. do I feel genuine sympathy for the conscripts who have no choice and no possibility to surrender? sure. that's their lot unfortunatly, but you won't find me crying over dead Russians in Ukraine

[–] Matombo@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Calling russian soldiers orcs is litteral dehumanisation straight out of the faschists playbook. Can we please collectivly agree in not becoming the strawman putin used in his "justification" for this war?

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Withdrawing troops, returning stolen land, children, prisoners and paying for damages.. thats all i would accept. Nothing less.

[–] Mudface@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there isn’t going to be any peace discussions from Ukraine … how does this ever end?

[–] teft@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With Russia packing up their shit and going back to the pre 2014 borders.

[–] Mudface@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you think it’s all or nothing for Ukraine?

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

white peace is NOT an option. neither for Ukraine nor for Putin.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So it doesn't end?

Edit: barring NATO rolling in and starting WW3 that's clearly not gonna happen. So what's next?

[–] MightEnlightenYou@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you arguing for Ukraine to forgive and forget the rapes and murders and to give up parts off their country to the perpetrators rather than arguing for Russia to go back to Russia?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clearly Russia isn't going to do that, no matter how much a bunch of nobodies argue for it online.

Which actually realistic path leads to less dead people?

[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Negotiations don't exist for Russia, they are known for breaking all agreements anyways. Russia is not trustworthy in the slightest, they have never missed to prove that. You don't push the trigger on a loaded gun and hope for it to not fire. If you believe otherwise you desperately need to get out of you bubble and drink less Vodka.

Russian people killing Putin is the only way to end this sooner.

[–] SevFTW@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Putin-fanboys love to say “Ukraine needs to negotiate an end to this war” but like to forget that this war started because RuZZia shat on a treaty ensuring the sovereignty of Ukraine in exchange for their nuclear arms.

[–] flaneur@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Zelensky has forgotten to mention Mink and Mink2 agreement that he and EU have broken, thus lying to Russia, and even admitted it.