It's a clear EEE attack. Do not federate!
this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2023
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I agree. If I want to see "VIPs", influencers, ads or other crap like that I can still register an account over there. Also Meta's track record is horrible..
It's not easy to make an account unless you port over your Instagram account. I attempted to make two separate accounts, and both were suspended instantly and I couldn't continue unless I uploaded a selfie. But I didn't really want to use my name ¯\(◉‿◉)/¯
So you say you don't want to comply with their terms of service. That's good for you 😄.
I think defederating is the only way forward, Facebook will take over otherwise even if they do it slowly.
No offense but I think the website becomes useless if it's defederated.
we shouldn't do anything.
Isn't the whole promise of the fediverse that whatever the policies of one instance are, that doesn't necessarily affect all the other instances, and each can do their own thing. If an instance doesn't want to accept traffic from threads, good for them. But to try to organize a fediverse-wide response to threads seems a whole lot like the centralization the fediverse is supposed to not be.
Well the resistance isn't without reason:
https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
Absolutely defederate from threads immediately from anything threads related.
Threads will collect any and all data they can about users disregarding which server you are on, and not agreeing to their business practices.
There's a reason they are not in the EU, including NI despite being in UK. And that's probably because their practices are illegal, and don't respect the rights of their users according to EU regulation.
The second Lemmy federates with Threads, I'm out of here.
Fun fact - GDPR is about European persons, not European servers. If an European citizen has a fediverse account on an American/African/Asian/… server and Meta collects all of their data and processes it, they are still in violation of GDPR. Locking European (Instagram) accounts out of Threads doesn’t make them comply magically with GDPR.
Good luck meta, have fun handling all those GDPR requests and proving that Europeans have consented that you suck up all their data…
But if your company is not localized in EU how they will prosecute the company?
Yeah, that's a bit of a problem in general. But in this case we're talking about Meta. It's one thing, if $randomCompany from outside the EU does it. As long as they're not doing business within the EU and not specifically target the EU as a market, then they might try to get the company and fine them and may or may not succeed.
Meta on the other hand provides service explicitly for EU citizens & companies. Not only did they localize Facebook, Instagram,... for European languages, they offer the service to sell ads for European companies. In this case, the EU can and will have a way to get them fined, I they want.
In order to compete in user experience we need to up our game. We need to set up communities which collect, categorize and funnel user requests upstream. These features should be focused on:
- reducing frictions like unclear UI, broken links, etc.
- improving usability of the various web frontends (the one from Lemmy, kbin, etc.)
- collecting bug reports and making sure they will be fixed
This is meant to be a proxy between average users and tech enthusiasts who know how to do pull requests or open GitHub issues. Moderators of these communities would do it for them. This would enable us to gain visibility in the needs of the users.
This is only a part of what needs to be done, but I think this can be done quickly.
Join the pact and not just vow but actually do defederate Threads as soon as it comes online: https://fedipact.online/
i appreciate the message but what is that ui design???
the floating hearts that go over the text. the neon pink background. the fact that this serious pact is in all lowercase (i know im typing in all lowercase, but i think the fedipact is different from an internet forum). the weird text animation for hyperlinks that makes it unreadable for a second. this does not lead to any reasonable credibility
That is what nonconformity looks like. The internet of old looked similar to this. Nowadays, everything has ample whitespace, and is boringly styled, and ads everywhere.
That would be how I look at this page.
Webpages have ample whitespace and "boring" styling for accessibility and readability. Nonconformity for the sake of nonconformity is really stupid.
I mean with boring that every website looks the same, perhaps a splash of color but thats it. And even that isn't a guarantee for accessibility or readability. This pink website is perfectly valid and accessible.
Why?
There is literally a link on that page titled "why"...
What worries me most is how this has shown me how how wildly insecurely ActivityPub seems to be storing and sharing user data.