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[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

In France, I understood the fight against climate change is probably already over when we had 40Β°C at midnight one day of the previous summer.

It's an eary feeling to feel ultra hot air in the middle of the night coming from an opened window.

Not saying I'm not trying to act against climate change on my level but I know we already lost.

[–] abertausend@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

No, there is no upper limit to suffering.

If one person has been killed in a fire, that's bad. If the fire killed two people, that's worse. If it killed 100 people, that's even worse.

There is no magical point where you say "Oh, there are 42 people that we could rescue, but we won't, because 600 people have been killed already and that somehow makes the rescue pointless".

If we can reduce suffering by just a bit, and delay the worst just a bit, then it's worth it.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well it could be 45 at night. And it will be if wr dont tackle climate change quickly

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are we tackling anything in the last decade ?

Do people look at the ever increasing graph of CO2 emissions worldwide ?

It increased last year. It will increase this year.

Let's do our best to delay it but it's happening people.

Our politics are all cowards no matter the country.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Are we tackling anything in the last decade ?

If you e.g. look at power generation, then yes, that is being tackled. Incrementally and against a lot of resistance, from conservatives, fossil industries, nimbys, etc. Build-out rates for solar and wind worldwide are getting better. The last decade was not completely lost, it helped make these technologies cheaper and more scalable.

Do people look at the ever increasing graph of CO2 emissions worldwide ?

It is true, they do. And at face value, those rising emissions wouldn't be necessary, if climate change was given appropriate priority.

But we also have realistic projections that emissions will start falling before 2030.

Let's do our best to delay it but it's happening people.

Climate change is not binary. Rather there's a spectrum of outcomes. Of course climate change is happening and of course, the 1.5Β°C goal is unrealistic now (because we're basically there already we just can't say for sure yet). But it does matter that we do not make climate change even worse than it needs to be.

[–] genfood@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

I don’t agree.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please remember that France has islands near the Equator

[–] abertausend@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Sure, a few measurements from a small number of tiny, unimportant islands are going to prove that climate change isn't real, or whatever.

Anyway, why do you think they're talking about political Europe, not geographical Europe?

[–] Pooptimist@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry, it's just a sun thing, it will be back to normal in about three years /s

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Well, you’re right that these temperatures will be normal in three years.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

How is Ireland 7C lower than the UK.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

stable west winds from the open sea i'd guess.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The only chart where Italy clearly outperforms neighbouring countries! πŸ• A side note for any European who wants to feel superior: the Italian minister of infrastructures has declared recently, speaking about a deadly bus accident which had strongly shocked public opinion, that the vehicle being electric can not be ruled out as a cause for the event, implying that endothermic engines are still preferable (source).

[–] Mateoto@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's what you get when you vote dumb fascist politicians into power. I bet it's not the first time some erratic explanation was given from one of those right wing politicians.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, agreeable (I would not have used those words though, the real danger is not in this minister nor in his party). But why do you think they were elected in the first place and why is their consensus soaring day after day? Are people just "dumb"? Misinformation? Distrust of more moderate parties who did nothing to prevent the current crisis? This is a place for discussion.

[–] Sodis@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Well, since we see a surge of right-wing parties in all western countries, I would say they are doing something right. Populism seems to work on a large slice of the population. Offering apparently easy solutions, blaming scapegoats and fueling a culture war combined with media articles, that get written for the most clicks, are a winning recipe for the right.