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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 108 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That'd work until you happen to get a reptile enthusiast on the show that can recognize the species, at which point you just have a show of a guy completely missing the point whilst nerding out over snakes.

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

I would watch that show. πŸ˜‰

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not a reptile enthusiast, but knowledgeable enough to know a few things about them.

A well fed snake, hell most snakes (not all, some constrictors you don't want to fuck with) won't see a human as food, and won't attack unless provoked. Don't sneak up on a snake, don't step on a snake, don't harass a snake and it won't give 2 fucks about your presence.

A venomous snake usually (there's always an exception) has a "neck", if you can see where it's head ends and it's body begins it's more likely venomous than it's danger noodle looking counterpart.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are a lot of exceptions. Most of them, as it happens.

Vipers have that "neck" and a wider head than their bodies. Elapids typically don't, and can be extremely venomous. In fact, the most deadly venomous snakes in the world are elapids including cobras, taipans, and black mambas.

Tl;dr: Rarely wise to step on snek.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

it's not only unwise to step on snakes, it's also rude. which is worse

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If red touches black, you're ok, Jack.

If red touches yellow, you're a dead fellow.

This aphorism only works in North America, but it is a pretty reliable way to determine the difference between a coral snake... and a milk snake, also many other kinds of similar looking, non venomous snakes.

You may note that the milk snake has a bit more of a defined neck, head vs body seperation, than the venomous coral snake... which ... would mean if you followed your rule, you may end up a dead fellow.

...

Now... many, venomous snakes make some kind of an alert sound, a hiss or rattle or someother bodily mechanism of saying 'back the fuck up'.

But not all of them.

... and a great many venomous snakes... well they hide in the shrubbery and tall grasses, meaning you can easily accidentally come upon one if you're moving through brushland, or a wetland...

You're right that you should never intentionally sneak up on a snake... but... it is usually more like accidentally happen to be too close to one, hear the alert sound, waaay too close to be comfortable... and then you fucking freeze, try to figure out where exactly it is by your ears alone, and then very, very slowly back away untill you can't hear the rattle anymore.

At least thats what I did when that happened to me, and I lived, to insufferably recount the tale as I am now, lol.

There's... only one kind of rattlesnake in Eastern Washington state.

And it is venomous.

Say hello to my missed connection:

But hey, your 'does it have a neck' rule works for this one!

Too bad I never saw it, at all... its got pretty good camoflauge for the one to two feet tall grasses and shrubs it resides in.

Snake bites are of course, overall, a very uncommon thing for most people to be worried about... but if you are regularly involved in some kind of outdoor activity, or just kinda live out in the sticks, or are renting an AirBnB out there... you should probably familiarize yourself with the local wildlife.

...

As a final note, I am not any kind of snake expert at all.

But I do know that if you are, then the actual word for that is... Herpetologist. Expert in Herpetology.

Consult your local Herpetologist before you derp around in the badlands, lol.

...

EDIT: Final addendum: Female snakes often tend be considerably more pissy, apt to warn and stike, when they are in heat.

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Count me in!

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[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There’s no progressive form of sexism

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[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I understand the problem people have with men and more specifically toxic masculinity, but this gender wars bullshit only serves to further separate people. What's the purpose of saying "men are rapists" or "men are violent"? It's fine in the context of venting/talking with people facing similar problems, but because it entirely misses the sociological causes, it can cause people come to incorrect conclusions like "kill all men" or "all men are inherently bad because..." which essentialises their gender.

Men aren't inherently bad. It's patriarchy and toxic masculinity that you should be upset at - two sides of the same coin, really.

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[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This gender war identity politics shit is just key jingling to distract the masses from the fact that the new robber barons are simultaneously fleecing everyone's retirement and inserting a knife into our collective kidneys.

Glad to see a lot of comments just ain't falling for it.

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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 42 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Didn't we learn as children that stereotypes are bad and hurtful? Like why is this one an acceptable thing to lump all men together under the same group? The rhetoric rarely makes a distinction. It lazily doors not differentiate the different problem groups within that and stops at blanket statements that cover more people who aren't the issues than are.

When you treat an entire gender as the enemy, stop being surprised when the young men are increasingly not acting like allies.

The power of rhetoric being forgotten is probably my chief criticism of the β€œpurity test” wing of the left. Perfect being enemy of the good is very lost on people who seem not to want to acknowledge that even things they don’t like might have nuance.

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[–] hakase@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)
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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Guess we should fear all snakes then! Or all sharks! That hasn't lead to extreme fear based reactions where entire populations suffered because of fear due to a portion of the population being potentially dangerous.

The point about not knowing which one might be dangerous is a good point, but example is terrible. Use unsafe mechanical equipment or something instead.

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dudes will queue to use unsafe mechanical equipment, while telling you "hold my beer".

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Reminds me of when Donald Trump Jr. compared Syrian refugees to a bowl of M&Ms with some of them poisoned. Same argument, same mindset.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 29 points 1 week ago

So we're fixing the division along gender lines by becoming... more divided?

Feels like the insinuation here is that, as a woman, it's acceptable to base your personality on men as long as you believe all men base their personalities on hating women.

Maybe just accept that humans are complicated and nuanced and you can't judge an entire gender based on the actions of the worst members of that gender.

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm going to ignore the most heinous aspects of this and just say, I'd love to be introduced to a variety of venomous and non-venomous snakes and would likely find it to be a pretty cool experience. Snakes are neat and the venomous ones are often beautiful and fascinating.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago

That's snakist.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Honestly these comments are giving me hope that people are being sensible.

Too often in leftists spaces the conversation is dominated by the loudest voices taking the most extreme black and white position. Which just pushes makes the culture war nonsense worse.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

It's pretty easy to tell the difference between venomous and non-venomous snakes.

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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How to differentiate between snakes easily: https://reptilestime.com/venomous-vs-non-venomous-snakes/

That said, snakes tend to avoid being visible, as they could become someone's lunch, so YMMV.

You can also tell if a bite is venomous by the marks (usually venomous snakes have fangs, non-venomous have teeth).

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This entire article is an irresponsibility stupid thing to put on the internet. It lacks the asterisk of "in North America" at the top because all it contains a is a list of halfassed ways to determine if you're looking at a viper or not, and for the most part rattlesnakes (which are pretty damn distinctive to begin with). True, many venomous snakes in North America are indeed vipers including copperheads, our several aforementioned varieties of rattlesnakes, and cottonmouths.

But the most deadly of the snakes found in and around North America and indeed the rest of the world are not vipers; they're elapids or colubrids, which display few or none of these alleged telltales.

For instance, here is a coral snake which is an elapid and one of the few snakes you'll encounter in the continental US that can absolutely kill you stone dead with its neurotoxic venom.

Take note of the:

  • Lack of triangular head
  • Round pupils
  • Fangs not visible
  • No rattle
  • Banded pattern
  • Fairly blunt tail

...And it also has at least two very similar lookalikes which are not dangerous to humans, namely the milk snake and the kingsnake. So, are you absolutely sure which one you're looking at before you touch it? A better idea is, don't touch it.

And outside of North America this is even worse advice because the rest of the world is absolutely rotten with deadly non-viperid snakes.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Apart from the coloration this could just as well be a simple corn snake, which are absolutely harmless. Despite having owned (mildly venomous) snakes myself for years I still wouldn't touch any wild specimen without adequate protection.

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[–] lath@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a trap fellas! Playing with snakes is gay so you get boned whichever way you answer.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think the point is that people who say (shout) "Not All Men" are usually frustratingly insensitive and the thought of throwing them into a snake pit is fun. We know it's not all men, we aren't stupid, but we also know that even 1% would be one percent too many to feel safe alone with a stranger (and, unfortunately, statistics suggest harassment is certainly more than 1%!).

Well, most people aren't that stupid. There's a few who are, but I don't think they'd be posting here, lol.

That said, reading the comments, I get why some are offended even though being male is the privileged class in this comparison (after all, I don't feel afraid to walk home at 1am). Men are fucked by the patriarchy, told to repress their emotions, degrade people who break from masculinity, and so forth. But instead of saying "you're being sexist against men," please try to think of the systemic problems that led to that X% of assholes who make it unsafe for a woman (or POC, LGBTQ, etc) to walk alone on a street in America.

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[–] MrPiggyman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Divide ans conquer

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Flip it around.

Dating show where the men have a one in six chance of being hooked up with a psychotic.

Now watch the guys who'd line up for a chance to be on the show.

[–] Orangutanion@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's better odds than we normally get

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

This comment section is amazing. Good job all

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Red next to black, jump the fuck back. Red and yella, cuddly fella.

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