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[–] zazaserty@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

As a (I hope not shitty) cis dude, I don't think I would get "furious". Id probably laugh honestly. I get where this meme comes from but it gets a bit depressing when people get put into groups and defined by things such as being cis. I'm cis and I can't change who I am, I know that there are many cis assholes but that doesn't make me one. I hope that one day these types of stereotypes disappear and we can learn to finally get along. One day...

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why can't it just be a guy, simply dressing like a girl, 'as a joke'? I mean does he have to be 'curious'?

[–] CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I never understood this obviously toxic take... saying that a cisgendered male crossdressing MUST be trans or trans-curious is exactly the same toxic energy as denying trans women's existence.

Are you folks really gonna say that, for example, Tim Curry is a closet Trans Woman? Because that's the kind of thing being implied by that. Just let people do what they are gonna do and be what they are gonna be, leave your assumptions and judgements out of it.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I dressed up as a girl once for Halloween. I am a CIS dude and it was a very illuminating experience. The worst part of it was I must have awakened something in one of the people at the party because that dude would not leave me alone.

Drunk dudes that won't leave you alone and start crossing the line? I will never forget.

No means No dammit.

[–] breadcodes@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People kept pinching my butt and bra.

I was dressed as Tina from Bob's Burgers as part of a group costume. I was groped multiple times. Very disturbing.

[–] Jediotty@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

holy fucking shit that's horrid. I'm so sorry you had to deal with that

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

I wore a black kilt to a club once with my friends. One guy was very interested and put his hand on my leg which I did NOT consent to or appreciate. A skirt isn't an invitation.

I didn't even look good, I guess he just liked knees.

[–] vinhill@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

As a quite thin guy, I dressed as women for a game once and got several inappropriate comments and people coming too close.

[–] topperharlie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

what about stop gatekeeping stuff and profiling people in very limited groups?

I'm a "cis dude" who has many times dressed up with feminine costumes, I also have lots of gay friends, I like jazz dancing, love going to see a good ballet, have gone to pride parades as an ally, called out homophobic comments in casual conversations... but guess what? I think some costumes are beautiful and I don't want to limit myself to the ones in one gender.

I wouldn't mind being approached with transition information, I would politely explain that is not for me, but I don't like the tone of the meme assuming that if you cross dress for Halloween you are either a trans person or a "bro" that wants to hurt LGBTQ+ people.

I'm going to go wild and assume that is American, which always is "all or nothing" for them, and everything is a fight. Sometimes people just want to have fun. Leave us the fuck alone with all these rules of what is appropriate and what is not and gatekeeping everything. The American left DEI mentality is anything but inclusive, and is very confrontational to the point of working against what it is suppose to defend. You sound like the catholics of the 19th century (or the right winger catholic freaks of America that I see on TV)

my 2 cents. sincerely, an European left winger

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

Found the furious cis dude /s

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Exactly! Like, have you considered letting people enjoy things, especially when it comes to gender expression?

[–] sock@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

solving hate with hate is the human way

for a group that wants everyone to love each other it has a lot of internal prejudice. im very pro lgbt and allowing men to have feminine qualities tho.

[–] leggysnakegirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Guys I don't think "shitty cis dude" is supposed to imply that all cis dudes are shitty. Here it's just a particularly shitty example of one.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

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[–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Tweet saying:

If you encounter a guy dressed as a girl "as a joke" this Halloween offer them transition info and be welcoming because if it's an exploring trans girl, it'll be helpeful and if it's a shitty cis dude, he will be furious. It's a win/win.

As many other comments here (really liked the way /u/opperharlie put it) I think it's a shitty take. First of all, there is drag which is totaly valid. But I think crossdressing in genereal -if it's not done derogatory (which I never experienced)- is a totally fair costume. I am certain I am cis and have dresses feminin for costumes a few times and don't see what the problem with hat is.