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No puppies were harmed in this analogy (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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Alt text: a post from @lolennui.bsky.social that says: Once my German friend asked what creative people do without arts grants and other support in the US and I felt like a parent trying to explain to their kid that the puppies can die sometimes

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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 185 points 3 months ago (5 children)

If you have some free time and aren't easily depressed, go ahead and look up the backgrounds of your favorite, recently ascendant artists. Many, if not most of them come from privileged backgrounds, have wealthy spouses, trust funds, or familial industry connections.

And while I personally don't think that such advantages necessarily diminish the importance of their art, just think of how much more potentially moving and profound work we'll never see just because the people who should be making it never got chance to develop, since they've been too busy just trying to keep a roof over their heads.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 58 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've thought this for a long time about other things. it's truly a shame.

[–] Master@lemm.ee 45 points 3 months ago (2 children)

We could have cured cancer years ago but the scientist grew up poor and ended up working the graveyard shifts in the mines.

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 81 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.

~ Stephen Jay Gould

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

Ramanujan died at 32 from complications with childhood dysentery.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Have you seen S4 of The Boys?

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

More than that, you'd get better diversity in motifs and techniques if you expand the population base to a representation of society.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is how societies fall. Everyone just trying to keep a roof above their heads.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 months ago

I was a very talented artist and musician growing up and all through high school, from a nice poor family.

Had to join the army and become an engineer, no trust fund to write books and make music. Luckily at this stage in my life both are possible in my free time, but wished I could do other things than engineer.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Well also because of this we only see a very small representative sample with the art that does end up making it out into the open.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago (3 children)

They have seen what happens when you don't let an aspiring artist grow professionally, and perhaps continue their education, for instance, in a place like the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah lmao Adolf was a talentless hack. The man had absolutely no understanding of angles. Have you seen his paintings? They suck.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago

Nobody falls out of the crib painting Rembrandts. Maybe if he was allowed to go to school it would have been different.

[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 3 months ago (4 children)

European people: But... but what if we had a system of medical care for puppies, so that they do not die so often?

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

US Elite: but how does that make me money

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

By selling pet insurance, I suppose? Though I guess that requires that the puppies be owned by someone fortunate enough to afford it.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Hey guys, I figured out we can sell the insurance and then not pay anyone's costs. This literally cannot go tits-up.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

That's Communism. Jesus hates that.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 14 points 3 months ago

Kristi Noem: hold my Cosmopolitan.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago

Honestly, why doesn't Europe have universal veterinary? That will drive Americans nuts.

(Source: Am American)

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They go to Hollywood and write a fifth sequel to a 20 years old series that no one cares about.

[–] Sloogs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 months ago

Not without nepotism you don't

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

And shoot or edit parts of it in germany to get some of those arts grants

[–] protist@mander.xyz 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What do creative people do in Germany to support themselves?

[–] gregor@gregtech.eu 38 points 3 months ago

Art?

[–] JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Study liberal arts for free while getting bafög or a side job to pay for your living costs. I think that's more what the post is about. And there are also tons of grants.

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think the point is not so much about the actual occupation, but about the system fucking them a bit less.