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[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be clear: you like money, but you will not earn money.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Poor and middle-income people earn money. Rich people just take it from the people who earn it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Passive Income has been outpacing earned income for decades. The best job to have is a giant pile of money in a stock account. You barely even have to trade it. Blue Chip stocks are generating double digit returns. All off other people's labor.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 49 points 4 months ago (4 children)

30 years ago when I started heading down the computer science path, nothing about it seemed evil.

[–] vulture_god@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Honestly at this point in my software career (~10 years), it's not evil per se, but I don't feel great about essentially existing to help rich people (VCs, PE, etc.) get richer. But I suppose that's a problem that isn't limited to IT.

[–] RickyWars@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Certainly not limited to IT. One of my professors from many years was an aerospace engineer^1^. He recounts to us the time that he busted his ass on some design for a long time and managed to make some huge cost savings. And then after it was done he realized that all he really did with his extra hard work was help some executives and stockholders get a bit richer. Not long after that he switched to education.

^1^Not in the defense industry

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[–] overcast5348@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've had this thought for a while and I definitely agree that a lot of software I've built is a net negative to society as a whole and the only reason why I get paid as well as I do is because I'm helping rich assholes suck value out of society more efficiently.

For instance, I've worked on CMSs that automated 90% of the processes for medium-large insurance companies. Sure, it may result in a marginal price reduction for insureds (lol), but it almost certainly has led to fewer staff being hired to the benefit of the overlords. If more and more middle-class white-collar jobs gets replaced by software, that helps put downward pressure on wages. At the end of it all, are the marginally lower prices worth it to society, when everyone has a lower wage or no well paying job forcing them to participate in the gig economy and such?

It's a depressing thought, and I've been trying to break into research engineering roles or something of the sort to get away from my current role but it's been an uphill task.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 15 points 4 months ago

In a sane world, automating away tedious work would be an unqualified good. Too bad we live in a capitalist clown world where rich assholes are able to capture 120% of the benefits of automation, leaving regular people to make up the difference.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 13 points 4 months ago

Computer science is no more evil than most of the industries on the chart; they all offer ethical jobs as well, they just tend not to pay as well as the evil ones

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I feel like I mostly got away with it without being evil thus far. I ended up working for a foundation and the team I'm in builds internet access (and layer 2 transport) for institutions of higher education. But maybe network engineering isn't really the typical outcome, most of my friends became developers.

[–] Mavvik@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Did you try any of these and not like it? Yes -> geology

[–] Riftinducer@aussie.zone 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Should be a subbranch of "ambivalent towards safety" - How do you like to endanger yourself -> Blowing things up = Chem Eng or Hit things with hammers = Geology

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[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Then when you go to grad school you realize you have to like all of them.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Do you collect locks?" is also a good one.

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I never heard of LockPickingGeologist

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

He's on YouTube

[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Came here to say I felt under represented lol

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 21 points 4 months ago (8 children)
[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Economics is science but with resources.

Economics is like ecology for the financial / resource world.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm under the impression that it's half math half psychology of groups.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, part of ecology looks at relationships between groups of organisms, and economics looks at relationships between economic agents. Those relationships require understanding of behaviours and motivations of those groups.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

That's a great way to put it. The ecology of money goods and services.

[–] mineralfellow@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Yes. In the heirarchy of science, it ranks just below literature.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Well, whilst it's basically Astrology, it does decorate itself heavily with Mathematics.

(A more serious answer is: it depends on which part within Economics one is talking about. For example Behavioural Economics does use the Scientific Method).

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago

It falls into both Science and Math

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

accurate, and for the record, EPA, you can take my DCM wash bottle out of my DEAD DEGREASED HANDS

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look, I'm all for green chemistry, and I'll switch to using safer, more environmentally friendly reagents and solvents the second they are close to the efficacy of the real deal.

Until then, leave my acetone and heavy-metal catalysts alone!

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Acetone is rather green (7 in GSK solvent guide), but I for one haven't used heavy metal catalysts in a year, and more if you don't count palladium

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[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Like, so what if we store our tBuLi with other low-flash point flammables? And pyrophoric oxidizers? In the same bin? That's stuck in a block of ice in the 30-year-old freezer because it hasn't ever been de-iced?

What if the power goes out for a long period of time and the tBuLi goes for a swim? Or we say you have to de-ice the freezer?

Haha sounds crazy. And, I wouldn't have to do the shitty quench before disposal. Or work on that project anymore.

Because you're injured or because PI fires you?

Haha, yeah :)

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:)

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Oh, while you're here, does this still smell like DCM? I can't tell if I rotavapped it all off and the NMR tubes all need aqua regia (sorry my b).

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Aqua regia isn't even that scary. Try pipetting pure bromine while it shoots itself out from constantly evaporating

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Aqua regia ain't no piranha, and also ain't the most concerning thing in my post lol.

Ah bromine. Super dense, low MW, and low bp, all making dosing accurate amounts a heroic feat. If you store your bromine cold, you can precool the pipette by sucking up and spitting out a few times before transfering, which helps cut down the vapor.

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[–] GlennMagusHarvey@mander.xyz 13 points 4 months ago

"Frickin' beautiful."

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

Moment of silence for those who thought environmental science doesn't have maths. (No money is true though.)

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 4 months ago

After indirect

Do you want to feel like you are in a secret society? Yes -> actuarial sciences

[–] Artaca@lemdro.id 7 points 4 months ago

There could be one more to differentiate engineers from architects. Do you like to solve problems (engineer) or create them (architect)? Fun flowchart!

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That is literally the path I took to become an Env. Scientist

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ah, a fellow poor with no hope. How goes it!?

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[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Same for computer science

[–] Lustrate@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know it’s a complete and proper list because it excludes that pseudo-science Geology.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Geology is just a specialized field of chemistry. Biology too for that matter.

[–] aramus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Well and chemistry is just applied electron physics

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