That's fucked up. One expects that professional soldiers act as what they are. But as the article says, some of them aren't professional soldiers.
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But as the article says, some of them aren’t professional soldiers.
I think majority of people fighting for Ukraine are shopkeepers, teachers, mechanics, engineers, farmers and so on. Very much just average people, with quick training, defending their own country against violence and pretty literal existential threat while receiving news about bombing of childrens hospital. And there's been stories around where Russians pretend to surrender and set up an ambush on the site.
I can understand why individuals choose to kill anyone with a russian uniform regardless of the situation. War is a terrible thing and it brings out the worst from us. Here in Finland if you ask a veteran on how it feels to kill a human being they'll likely answer that they don't know as they've only killed enemies. I believe many Ukrainians respond similarly.
It obviously doesn't make it right, war crimes should be punished regardless on who made them, but I can understand why normal people do fucked up things in fucked up scenarios and war is pretty much at the top of fucked up scenarios.
Yikes. It sounds like they have some cleaning up to do.
Hope they will.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Hours after a battle in eastern Ukraine in August, a wounded and unarmed Russian soldier crawled through a nearly destroyed trench, seeking help from his captors, a unit of international volunteers led by an American.
The shooting of the unarmed, wounded Russian soldier is one of several killings that have unsettled the Chosen Company, one of the best-known units of international troops fighting on behalf of Ukraine.
In a second episode, a Chosen member lobbed a grenade at and killed a surrendering Russian soldier who had his hands raised, video footage reviewed by The Times shows.
In a third episode, Chosen members boasted in a group chat about killing Russian prisoners of war during a mission in October, text messages show.
A Greek soldier known as Zeus was at the center of all three episodes — tossing the grenade and, Mr. Grosse says, firing at the wounded Russian in the trench and bragging about another kill.
But in the United States military, a video showing the killing of a surrendering soldier, regardless of the circumstances, would prompt an immediate investigation, said Rachel E. VanLandingham, a professor at Southwestern Law School and a former U.S. Air Force lawyer.
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But in the United States military, a video showing the killing of a surrendering soldier, regardless of the circumstances, would prompt an immediate investigation
I think he means a video that was unfortunately made public. Otherwise it would be covered up as usual.
This is bad. You always want to give your opponents a way out peacefully.
I understand that it's probably much easier said than done, though. Especially if you have been stuck in a war, watching atrocities happen daily. I can't assume any of us would be better than that.
This whole thing is a shitshow. Politicians should go to war, not civilians.
I agree. Those with the loudest war cries should go first.
Didn't we read about this last week.
Yeah but it’s the next round of Russian propaganda blowing up an isolated incident that happens in every way to make English speakers give up on the cause