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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

Look I get that private trackers are probably safer and have a mored dedicated community but personally I still love anyone that keeps it public and keeps the knowledge of torrenting open and available as a tool for new people to discover.

I just use the public torrents, I have an IP Blocklist, and I seed the shit out of the stuff I download if it's got less traction on it.

I will probably find a private group or something once I realize my obscure watching habits leave me out of finding stuff unless I can literally find it physical or get lucky but for now I'm a free pirate.

[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here's my experience with 99% of private trackers:

"You haven't upload enough. Download a free-leech to upload more". So I download it, and no one downloads it from me.

[–] mark7869@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yup same experience with the freeleech

[–] HeneryHawk@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're downloading old and/or unpopular stuff. For you to upload content someone has to be actively downloading that content (that's how the bit torrent protocol works at the most basic level). If you choose some 5 year-old FL of a Game of Thrones pack with 7,000 seeders, that's on you

[–] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The incentive structure just doesn't seem designed well. It creates a zero sum game. When downloading you can either:

  1. Not seed to 100%. This damages your ratio

  2. Seed to exactly 100%. In terms of ratio maintenance across all seeders this option makes the most sense

  3. Seed past 100%. You build up your own ratio but deny other downloaders from reaching 100% which hurts their ratio. They must spend longer seeding the torrent to reach 100%, which further decreases the likelihood of subsequent downloaders from reaching 100% when seeding

When you seed past 100%, you essentially have to rely on bad actors to create more upload work for good actors. If there are no bad actors then seeding past 100% is to the detriment of other good actors, who you want to protect because you also rely on them for system health. And private trackers aim to minimize the number of bad actors.

[–] EddyNottingham@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some great private trakers implement a system where users are rewarded for the time they spend seeding rather than the amount of data seeded. This creates an incentive towards keeping torrents available to everyone for a long time, which makes the whole system healthier.

[–] Aetherion@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

which private trackers are engaging this approach. Seems worth to join them.

[–] MrMagnesium12@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Our federal chancellor will join, too 🦜.

Olaf Scholz

[–] spez@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't do much torrenting but only direct downloads (3rd world baby!) What are trackers really?

[–] Venomnik0@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

omg its spez. How does it feel to run reddit to the ground?

[–] spez@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yup, it's spez from fucking Brazil