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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (26 children)

This is key:

"This does not mean most Israeli Jews became ideological right-wingers; they are not, polling suggests, fully committed to the project of expanding settlements or West Bank annexation. Mostly, they wanted Netanyahu and the right to keep them safe in a way that the left seemingly couldn’t. The prime minister, in recognition of this reality, campaigned first and foremost on security — earning the moniker, perhaps self-claimed, of “Mr. Security.”

Hamas’s attack on Saturday, a mass slaughter of Israeli civilians without precedent in Israeli history, exposed a basic contradiction in this image in the most agonizing way. Simply put, there is no way now to argue that the right-wing ideological project has delivered the security most Israelis crave."

I hope there are enough moderate Israelis out there who can push for a different approach because oppression, theft of land, and brutality isn't a way forward if the aim is to stop bloodshed from both sides.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

How would that realistically look like without Isreal waging war with almost the entire Middle East?

The 'middle ground' for Hamas is "kill all the jews in their land and destroy the Israeli state".

Edit: how about instead of merely downvoting you guys respond with a thought of a potential solution that doesnt end with Israel getting completely butt fucked. This whole invasion was just an exercise for people brainstorm on how to shit on Israel regardless of the outcome.

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reality of the current situation is that Palestine is probably going to cease to exist... And you are asking about a solution where Israel doesn't cease to exist?

I'm confused.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah that is just naive. Israel has no interest in destroying palestine... but palestine does have interest in destroying Isreal. My real shit take here is that the world would be better off without the PLO regardless.

[–] Arbic@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that is just naive. Israel has no interest in destroying palestine

What was that again about killing all those animals. And blockading of water, food and energy ?

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sometimes you have to pluck out the weeds am i right chat? If you dont play nice, you dont get to eat. That was a joke btw.

I havent read too much into how israel has used overaeching power like that but if you have any non biased sources id love to see.

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