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ID Scanners Can Change How Your Local Bar Treats You—and Whether It Lets You In. (themarkup.org)

submitted 1 month ago by ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 137 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can see the allure for places wanting to keep certain trouble-makers out as a precaution, but this gets so close to a privatized social credit score that it's beyond uncomfortable.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel like you should not be allowed to record any data until there's a documented case with a police report at minimum. At that point, potentially restricting action becomes a legitimate security need.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Idk about that level of escalation being necessary, maybe just repeat offenses. Where I went to college it's got to be super serious for police to come into a bar.

Repeat fights, or pukes on the floor, or belligerence to staff are all things I would think would be decent grounds to be turned away by ID. I mean, that happens now at gas stations and restaurants with security cam photos saying "don't serve this person" posted at the register except it's more public.

I suppose it depends what data is recorded though, they don't need your home address.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

You can already handle people being repeated nuisances at a specific location without issue.

Sharing any information at all absolutely should require a police report (and I'm aware that they already violate privacy other ways; that's also not OK).

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

yeah, promising security/convenience over liberty is how they reel us in every time

that and protecting the kids