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Telling people to use a trans person's preferred pronouns isn't starting an argument. The arguments were started when those people misgendered Me. There's nothing wrong with responding negatively to transphobia. I'm very grateful that they did. It really helped with My mental health.
There are others that respect Your pronouns without also behaving as confrontationally as MindTraveller. There's plenty to criticize about them without misgendering anyone.
Well, I like that Mindtraveller was mean to the people who misgendered Me. It made Me feel respected. I'm very grateful to Ada and Kittenzrulz, but they weren't mean to transphobes like Mindtraveller was. Is that what all this is about, them being mean in that thread? I liked it. Do other people think it was bad?
And again when the mean tankies do it it's "dogpiling."
Midtraveler wasn't just mean, they were belligerent at any perceived slight towards their beliefs. They created a comm dedicated to specifically "satirize" this comm as a reaction to having their transphobia allegations denied (and their first attempt to shut this comm down) after they took offense at the mod's stances.
I don't understand why Ada didn't immediately see that it was clearly directly targeting members of this community and it's one of the reasons I decided to stop using this instance.
Well, I can't see Non Voters because it's banned, but what I can see is that the modlog of Liberty Hub says they were unbanned from here 3 days ago. So if that community was created to attack this one, then it's clearly been forgiven by Liberty Hub. And c/soulism didn't have any personal attacks when I visited it. So where's the division? Who exactly is still fighting this fight other than you and Ada? If Mindtraveller quit fighting Liberty Hub and Liberty Hub quit fighting Mindtraveller, what's the problem? Why aren't we all friends? I like Ada, I like kittenzrulz, I like Mindtraveller. It seems like kittenzrulz likes Mindtraveller and I haven't seen any evidence that Mindtraveller doesn't like kittenzrulz. They're saying in this thread that they're working together. So it seems like all of us are getting along. Who's still fighting? Ada, apparently, and I don't know why.
I didn't like this community either when LOC misgendered Me. But LOC apologised, I forgave them, and this community even had a change in leadership and resolved not to ban people so often. Now I like this community. Mindtraveller and kittenzrulz are getting along now too. There was a problem, it got fixed, now everyone's friends. Right?
I wish things were that simple, right now this community is tearing itself from within. Nothing I do, nor how much I apologize appears to appease many of these people.
A lot of the regulars here want you to keep on banning and insulting anyone they disagree with. They want fights and they want a divided community. That's what they've always wanted. And LOC banned anyone who didn't want that, so now most of your regulars are the people who do. You've got a community made out of people who want trouble. If you don't cause trouble for them by banning all dissenters, then they'll make the trouble for you.
I think you should go back and do a mass unban of people who were banned for silly reasons. You should try to build community of people who want open and respectful discussion with other leftists, and hope over time those voices drown out the ones spoiling for a fight. I don't think you're going to be able to calm down a lot of these people except through the passage of time. They're probably really distrustful because LOC was so distrustful. They'll only believe you can do well as a moderator if they see it with their own eyes. They won't believe anything you say if it's just words.
Also, I'm curious. How did you leave things off with Mindtraveller? Were they causing any problems after the change in leadership? Was there any division between them and you?
Im not sure if I can, im dealing with enough issues already.
Don't do that tbh, the people that were banned were mostly banned for being aggressive towards the viewpoints shared here. The community will only get MORE argumentative.