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I don't know what's going on with the pedophiles, but I hope the same reform.

Is this Pope good?

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[–] SHamblingSHapes@lemmy.one 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is just removing the previous Pope's cronies. There's nothing in the article to make me think the Pope is putting in systemic fixes to prevent his own cronies from worming their way into positions from which they can abuse their power.

I would expect any pope or leader to remove those around him who are loyal to someone else.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if anyone on the planet has enough brains to get that loyalty actually is something bad… everywhere you go it is praised like the literal best thing in the world but actually if we all were completely disloyal and only subscribed to our values, we might actually get somewhere.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would argue that zero loyalty may be as bad as full loyalty. Also that things are maybe more complicated than subscribing fully to own or other's values.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok, sure. Do you care to give an example? I‘d like to get your perspective.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I have one! People with cancer or a similar illness are frequently divorced by their spouses, which feels really fucked up to me. I do “get it,” my mom died after having cancer for eight years and my dad’s life would probably have been easier and less full of grief if he’d divorced her and for couples without kids, that’s a different decision. It’s still incredibly fucked up to imagine doing that to someone you promised to stand by (even if those weren’t your vows. Hell, even if you’re not really married but just in a committed relationship) and I think a little loyalty would be a good thing here.

That’s personal loyalty though, not political, I don’t know if that makes a difference.