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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

The motors have never been the problem, it's always been the battery. See train engines, they are a diesel generator with electric motors.

This is where history pisses me off. We should have been headlong into battery research after the oil embargoes. Could have been 40 years faster.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

I hope you are not talking about battery locomotives.

With overhead wires the train has a practically unlimited battery capacity.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

pretty sure most trains are powered by either overhead wires or third rails? considering that urban rail systems are always electrified and those have A LOT of trains.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Freight trains are diesel electric.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

okay? i'm talking about the world though, so typical for people to just assume america is all that matters lmao

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The point is about utilization of electric motors, if it happens anywhere on earth it's possible. You're trying to insinuate that it isn't true. And it is. Being American has nothing to do with it you dunce

[–] Veidenbaums@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly this. Imagine if gas powered motor could recharge in mere 12 hours and run for up to half the distance. Ah, that would be the dream.

And if you and 5 of your neighbors decide to refuel at the same time during peak hours you have a real chance of overloading your neighborhood grid. And your fuel tank is dead in 5 years, replacing which is more than half of your used cars cost.

Everything non-portable uses electric motors from the time the first wire was invented.

[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Boy it sure is easy to win a debate when you use fictional information

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&path=1&year1=2023&year2=2025&mclass=Small+Cars&srchtyp=newMarket&pageno=1&rowLimit=50

When you look at fueleconomy.gov you will see that the furthest a compact ev can go is 149 miles while the furthest a ice compact car can go is 594 miles

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/01/why-the-ev-boom-could-put-a-major-strain-on-our-power-grid.html You can read cnbcs article on how the grid is already pretty spread thinn with us already increasing our power demand by almost 3,000% in the last decade without even considering ev charging

https://www.motortrend.com/features/how-long-does-it-take-to-charge-an-ev/

According to motor trend DC charging is the fastest way to charge your EV and it still takes just under two hours Couldn't find a source that studied how long a ice takes to recharge but considering how ices are currently extremely common you can easily test that yourself and probably already know it's so quick you don't even think about it

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a31875141/electric-car-battery-life/

According to car and driver those lithium ion batteries you mentioned while yes they can last a decade most cars typically stay on the road for give or take 30-35 years and lithium ion batteries are inherently expensive and prone to thermal cascading ie catching fire also full charge and depletion wears the battery down over time

https://www.edmunds.com/electric-car/articles/electric-car-battery-replacement-costs.html According to Edmunds.com the average cost of ev battery replacement costs anywhere from 5,000$ to 15,000$ So what point was made up