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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, "Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND."

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[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children)

A huge problem with public transportation is safety and usability for small children, the elderly, and people with disabilities or who are sick. All these people often can't use bikes or scooters. They have problems with having to wait standing and constantly out of order escalators and elevators.

I don't own a car and live in a place with relatively good public transportation. That's the biggest problem I see, next to how badly organised it is (at least here in Germany).

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

American here, I have a disabled family member. Cars are ultimately harder on them because they physically cannot lift themselves into a car while also stowing their 200lbs wheelchair.

A bus or train doesn't have that problem and are therefore better.

And the more walk able the area the better because it makes it far easier. I'm sure there are disabled and elderly people who have an easier time using cars. But to say in a broad sweeping generalization that it's better for all disabled and elderly people is a mistake. Cars should not be the first go to for a solution.

And kids can't even use cars. They are dependent on public transportation and the walkability in their area.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

? I never said cars are better?

It's just a problem that needs to be fixed and is rarely mentioned (if at all). Especially the unreliable elevators + escalators.

Additionally, many trams and busses here have narrow stairs to enter or a huge gap to the floor. Some bus drivers refuse to help people in wheelchairs, they will just claim the bus is too full so they don't need to build the ramp. For the trams, there's no way to get in with a wheelchair.

Ironically, these were meant to have enough space for at least one wheelchair. But the entrance is not friendly, for various reasons.

I have a mild disability and often can't use the public transport because I struggle with stairs. Than I have to wait for a tram with a new model or walk around the city to a stop with no stairs.

They still build crossings like these and call it "modernized" ...

For kids the biggest problem is that in a lot of vehicles the stop isn't announced. And when the bus is (too) full they can't see the monitors or out of the windows. (That's a problem for all very short people I guess.)

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Cars are better" @ParsnipWitch

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[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I have more trouble with cars in my day to day life than with the issues of public transit. I just wanted to add that public transit has to be done better. But if you dare to criticise it people lose their minds here. And pretend you are against public transit and a car fetishist. -.-

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