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US senators have urged the DOJ to probe Apple's alleged anti-competitive conduct against Beeper.

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[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I don’t get it. iMessage is Apple’s service. Why are they obliged to open it up for everyone to use? Would it be nice? Yes, of course. Should Apple be legally required to open up access to their service?

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They didn't, someone made an App to interface with it. Trying to shut that down is anti-competitive.

[–] btmoo@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not a public API. Hacking someone's private API is already against law - charging $$ for it moreso.

[–] Lutra@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, common misconception - hacking an API != creating a compatible program. ( reverse engineering)

Imagine a drill company has a special shape for its bits. Our law allows someone else to either.. make bits that can fit in that shape OR make their own drill that can accept those bits.

"BUT they copied!" - it doesn't have to be a copy to be compatible, and they don't even have to use the 'special shape' just be able to work with the special shape. The law does not allow for protections around that. Doing so would be by definition anti-competitive. Our anti competition laws or rather our IP protection laws are not intended in any way to 'ensure a monopoly'. The IP laws give a person a right to either keep something they do secret OR share that knowledge with the world so we all benefit, in exchange for a very limited monopoly.

Practically speaking, If I got the KFC Colonel to give me the list of 11 herbs and spices in a Poker game, and then started making my own delicious poultry that is totally cool. Likewise, If I figured out that all that was inside a Threadripper was blue smoke and started making my own blue smoke chips, the law is ok with that.

In this case roughly, Having a public facing endpoint. And then saying that the public can access that endpoint is cool Saying that only the public using the code I alone gave them -- well... that's not been litigated a lot, but all signs point to no.

It's like Bing saying its for Safari only, and suing people who accessed it using Chrome. It is a logical claim, but the law does not provide that kind of protection/enforcement.


tl;dr these concepts are old but being newly applied to fancy technology. The laws in place are clear in most cases. A car maker can not dictate what you put in the tank. FedEX and UPS can't charge you differently for shipping fiction books or medical journals or self published stories. And they'd probably get anti-trust scrutiny they even told you what brand/style of boxes you had to use.

[–] Lightdm@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Sorry, I am failing to see how "it's like Bing saying its for Safari only, and suing people who accessed it using Chrome". I might have missed something but didn't apple just block the messaging internally? No lawsuit involved?
So I think the better comparison would be Bing simply only working on Safari.