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Yikes. Why is this being up voted here?
Translation: let babies who are likely to have developmental issues die.
Translation: you are exactly the myopic, emotion-driven kind of person I was talking about.
You are potentially forcing a life of misery onto the child, its parents and society as a whole, just because you are too cowardly to say that yes, some lives are not worth living. This is a mercy that every street dog is subject to, but humans not.
And don't act all "hurr durr value of human life", just look around the world. We all ignore millions of cruel deaths because it would be like real inconvenient to help them. You are dishonest and hypocritical.
No, I just actually care about people with special needs and don't want to murder them. I have a special needs kid and I know plenty of other kids with special needs who are very happy to be alive and happy that they have parents that love them and didn't try to murder them when they were babies.
What you suggest is eugenics and it's rightly thought of on the same level as the Holocaust. It's abhorrent.
So you are emotional and irrational. You are not the right person to ask here and your opinion has hardly any value.
BTW: it's not eugenics, but euthanasia. Which is granted to every sick animal. Get your facts straight.
Euthanasia is for people who want to die. Not for murdering babies with special needs.
You're hardly qualified to judge that.
The hubris you need to have to tell someone "you are not qualified to decide about life and death, unlike me".
Would you ask an alcoholic, whether alcohol is good?
Or a Christian if Jesus is the son of God?
Or someone with a Cat in New Zealand whether that's a good idea?
Emotional attachment clouds judgment.
Lol I like that you're pretending to be the logical one here
How am I arguing illogical?
Seriously, explain to me, how can anybody want to create a life that is objectively way at the lower end of quality of life? How can you justify shelling out thousands of euro/dollar/whatever for such a person, while others are left more or less to die?
Should we abort anyone with impoverished parents? After all, they have an objectively worse quality of life than wealthy people. Tell me exactly where you draw the line between "they will live a happy life" and "they should be killed, it's a mercy". Tell me exactly how you define "objectively way at the lower end of quality of life". Downs syndrome? Cancer? Asthma?
I mean honestly you just sound like an edgy teenager - safe bet that you probably are. But you need to realize there's a difference between cynicism and logic.
Hm, could we may find a difference between nature and nurture? Would that be possible here? Even arguing like that is dishonest (or stupid, you decide).
Tell me exactly how you define life. Birth? Conception? Somewhere it between?
How do you define adulthood? 14? 21? Something in between?
This argumentation, again, is dishonest. Decisions like that Steve clear cut. There's a mixture of scientific and cultural valuations at play. And at the end, you can make a cutoff at some point.
BTW: it's already perfectly normal practice to abort disabled children. There's a reason why there are relatively few people with down syndrome in Germany, they get aborted - and that much later than regular abortions. If someone would abort a healthy fetus at this stage, it would be considered murder.