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[–] kartonrealista@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And I don't expect most rides to be single occupancy. People will opt for shared rides if they are substantially cheaper,

Bus. That's called a bus. It can also fit more than five people and doesn't use as much energy to transport each person. You just reinvented a shittier bus

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Have you ever gotten on a bus? My car is in the shop and I've been riding the bus to and from work for about a month now. The bus smells of pee, a fair few of the denizens who ride with me smell of pee, and last week a guy got pepper sprayed or maced by the police for being high (near as I could tell) at the bus stop. I've ridden transit all my life (quite literally grew up riding public transit to school and so on), and I gotta tell ya, I'll ride share before I'll actively ride a bus. Especially considering the ride share would get me to work in half an hour and the bus takes about an hour and 45 minutes.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Those are reasons to fund better public transit, not double down on smaller cars.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Better public transit than Seattle, NYC, Philly, Chicago, and San Francisco? Seriously. Seriously. I've lived all of these places and I gotta tell you, it's bad everywhere in the US and the problem isn't the transit. It's people.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Literally any city in Europe or china has better public transit than anywhere in the US, and it’s not even close.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So your suggestion is to attack transit in America in a way that would not work for American because of America's unique problems with scale. Good to know. Do you know what would happen in most major cities in the US if all the car drivers suddenly had to take public transit? It would overwhelm any system you put in place. And the pollution would be astronomical.

I'm all for walkable cities and suburbs, and I'm even good with reducing the number of people who need to drive and therefore cars on the road. But this isn't a zero sum game. So unless you can show me a plan that is viable to take the place of the system I don't really want to hear naysaying about electric robotaxis or any of that.

This has been studied.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Americans don't have problems with scale, they are just toi car dependent to think of anything else.

Those people that stink, guess what: they are desperate and don't have any other form of transportation than to take an underfunded Bus.

Imagine the busses would receive a checkup and cleaning everytime they complete their route, come every 5 minutes, and wouldn't have to wait with the car traffic. Suddenly, it sounds much better doesn't it?

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Wrong. I invented a better bus. Well, i didn't, none of this is new. A bus that goes straight to your destination with few or no stops. A bus that always tells you exactly when it's going to arrive. A bus that can go to a lot of places a large bus can't. And of course one that's a lot quiet and cleaner. What exactly is your problem with that concept?