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I saw this post from !twoxchromosomes@slrpnk.net, and I wanted to share it here to get more discussion because it is important. I'm hoping that this post won't crowd out any voices, and while I've tried to keep this post productive and inclusive, please call out any concerns and use the post if you prefer :)

The post I linked had concerns about increasing misogyny and sexism, how there are fewer women on Lemmy, and how that might be a part of the problem.


Before I start, for those that don't want to hear u/otter ramble again, some communities that you ~~should~~ could join and participate in:

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Communities related to Women

Communities related to Men

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There are also communities like !feminism@beehaw.org and !mensliberation@lemmy.ca, and you can find more areas I didn't think about on lemmyverse.net.


So one thing I wanted to comment was that there may be more women on here than you might think! Lemmy is anonymous, and the issue of low activity affects the men oriented communities the same way as the women oriented ones. By participating in the communities above, we can make that more apparent (ex. Mastodon has a pretty nice blend of people).

By saying this, I don't want to ignore legitimate concerns, but rather it's because I find statements like "this platform doesn't have X group" discourages X group from participating.


Now, in order to make this problem better, I think it might help to highlight the benefits and work on the risks:

Benefits to highlight

  • Backups: Lemmy allows for an official backup of existing communities for women. If the Reddit one is shut down (it DOES happen), the Lemmy one would be available for regrouping
  • Inclusive: Lots of people left Reddit for privacy/ads/accessibility reasons, including women. Everyone deserves a space
  • Empowering: The Fediverse makes it easy to run an instance owned, funded, moderated, and operated by women

Risks to work on:

  • Doxxing & Deletion: This affects everyone, but it might affect women more/in different ways. When there is something you want to get rid of, say because of doxxing/stalking/creepy behaviour, it's much harder to do that with federation. Some of this can be fixed by fixing federation, and some of it might come down to crowdsourcing legal help. Past that I don't know...
  • Moderation: This is Lemmy specific. Women-oriented communities attract trolls, as do other community areas, and Lemmy moderation needs work.

Growing communities

  • General community building ideas apply here as well
  • Trust would help in this case. Getting in touch with existing community moderators on Reddit, and setting up a parallel / sister community setup would encourage people to post here.
  • Anything else? :)
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[–] gens@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Why ?

I see comments, and sometimes people behind them. If i see an asshole i respond appropriately, if i care enough. I do not see what 2xc sees, troublesome levels of misogyny and sexism. Whatever the reason for my view is. And i sure do not see gender on teh internets.

I get why those all comunities exist, and that there are topics/interests specific to genders. I am asking what do you think what you are suggesting will accomplish.

I do not see what growing those comunities will do about the insinuated problem. But hey, you all can do whatever you want.

Just a small warning if/when you go to a bigger scale: men are people too. Yes, even the assholes. Not that women don't have those. Sexism does go bout ways and has many causes.