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[โ€“] zesty@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why not

"Secularism means the freedom to emancipate oneself through school," Mr Attal told TF1

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

[โ€“] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes the freedom to do so. You should be free to NOT do that though. You should be free from pressure in both directions.

[โ€“] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't have a parallel religious law system in a secular state. So there absolutely should be pressure on people to accept that religious "rules" have no power there.

[โ€“] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes but forbidding the choice to wear a cross necklace or a headscarf is not exactly freedom is it?

Nobody is arguing for a parallel law system

[โ€“] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you underestimate the influence of religious symbols. It's not just any type of clothing. It's a tool for religious communities that has considerable impact, especially when your parents make you wear it, it has beliefs attached to it and is easily visible to everyone around you.

[โ€“] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean parents so have a lot of freedom to raise their children as they see fit. And I think that is a good thing. I would not do a lot of things that other people do, but it's totally in the rights of people to raise their children religiously, and that can include wearing certain kinds of clothes.

[โ€“] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Well, that's were we disagree. I don't think parents should be free to raise their child however they want to. And it's also not in their rights in every country.