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https://discourse.nixos.org/t/much-ado-about-nothing/44236

Not directly related to this blog post but from NixOS discourse forum, a tl;dr from another person about the NixOS drama here :

If you’re looking for a TL;DR of the situation, here it is:

    Nix community had a governance crisis for years. While there has been progress on building explicit teams to govern the project, it continued to fundamentally rely on implicit authority and soft power

    Eelco Dolstra, as one of the biggest holders of this implicit authority and soft power, has continuously abused this authority to push his decisions, and to block decisions that he doesn’t like

    Crucially, he also used his implicit authority to block any progress on solving this governance crisis and establishing systems with explicit authority

    This has led uncountably many people to burn out over the issue, and culminated in writing an open letter to have Eelco resign from all formal positions in the project and take a 6 month break from any involvement in the community

    Eelco wrote a response that largely dismisses the issues brought up, and advertises his company’s community as a substitute for Nix community
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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

That reads like someone with minor mental illness. Rambling. Evangelion. Rambling.

I clicked their resume and there's no evidence they contributed a single line of code to the project. Yet they demand the person who wrote most of it step down? Yeah.

Write your own project and manage it how you want. Don't threaten others. Do your own thing.

[–] hagar@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I'd just like to remind the passing reader that creating an open source project does not entitle you to do whatever you want and tell people to "make their own thing" if they don't like it. Open source projects are the result of a massive collaborative effort and the resulting work is the product of a whole community laboring to make it happen. Signed: someone with a major mental illness.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

does not entitle you to do whatever you want and tell people to "make their own thing" if they don't like it.

He not only wrote it but made it open source so if anyone doesn't like what he's doing they can take all of his work and make their own project.

The author of NixOS couldn't have been more generous. If anyone doesn't like it, they can take all his work that he did for free and make it their own project.

Threatening the creator is wrong.

[–] hagar@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I understand that and it is indeed a good thing to publicly license your work rather than keep that to yourself. Still, no matter how virtuous one's actions are, that does not mean the people who come to deposit their time and work for a project should accept everything that person does simply because they started it.

People are entitled to argue about the project they participate in, and that is even more true for open source software, where the contributions of the community eventually become much greater than any single human can accomplish. I really do not understand this mentality of "this person created it, therefore if you don't like any of their decision suck it up or go make your own fork", it is very narrow and a horrible way to conduct anything, really anything, much less a collaborative project.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

should accept everything that person does simply because they started it.

They don't have to!!! He gave it to you for free to do with it what you want.

Giving you something for free doesn't entitle you to threaten him.

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

I think you are missing the part where the community also gives back to the project. At some point the project isn't really the creation of the original author anymore.

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