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In Congress today, the war criminal who has starved, killed and maimed tens of thousands of Palestinians was given standing ovations and 70 applause breaks.
It wasn't the only thing that happened. Over 100 Democrats boycotted the address and thousands protested outside. Still, I think this cartoon captures the spectacle of what happened inside the building.
Israel is used as a weapons testing platform by America. We are fighting a proxy war with Iran/China/Russia without risking American lives. Our proxies in the middle east and west of Russia act as physical separation and plausible deniability for our violent acts. The reason that the genocide is tolerated is because America benefits from the fighting. The Israel conflict acts as a forever war between our constant other armed conflicts, allowing us to generate income and research technology through private industry. We invented Israel to accomplish American goals in the middle east. To invoke the moral defence is to engage in a bad faith argument. The genocide is immoral on its face, but the language of power informs American policy decisions. Even the moral arguers that are allowed into the halls of power are allowed there as part of the production. That is manufactured outrage. Manufactured inso that the power forces allow the dissent to be visualized within their body to show fake deference to the filthy truth: power beats morals in America. Imploring moral righteousness from the powerful is useless. Worse than useless, it strengthens the powerful's play by making them appear tolerant. If you want change, violence and power are the language spoken. I do not support genocide and I do not allow my thoughts to be used as a tool of oppression by placidly stating the obvious. The correct action is action and fear of being able to do that action is the boundary of power. Imagine even saying that American cities should be bombed by their own inhabitants if the genocide doesn't stop tomorrow. You can't? That's power. If you're afraid reading this, that's power.
Yeah but weapons for ukraine took 6 months...
Either way, clearly US regime has some exra love for Israel because purely economic and geopolitcal terms can't explain away US behavior imho
The fact that there is even an "argument" about it does indeed confirm that powerful people don't give a fuck about being found guilty of it. I guess that's what winning really looks like in the end.
But let's be real this does not benefit the US geopolitically. If US stopped supporting Israel tomorrow, nothing would really change for US.
Israel would not survive tho...
I have attached a screenshot of the middle east. Israel affords the US Access to the middle-east without needing to access the Suez channel. This is of strategic importance because the canal is tiny and our navy has to send ships through it to bomb Iran through the Persian Gulf. If the canal were to be closed, we would have to take carrier strike groups around Africa to go east and access the Gulf. This is important to projecting power into the region. If ever there were a land war, the US would need Israel to put big land stuff into play to fight China/Russia/Iran. Thank you for challenging my thinking.
Under this logic, Egypt is way more valuable to US.
You are also mixing naval access with landing ground, which I am not following. If Egypt closes suez, what is israel going to do? We are still going around Africa.
If we need to land troops in middle east, we have base in Kuwait, KSA Jordan? Half of Arab countries there are US allies lol What does israel bring that they don't?
Also, Turkey is NATO and borders Iran. Kuwait is a drive away from Iran.
I am still yet to hear a concrete reason why Israel is valuable to the US tbh beyond platitudes that Israeli propaganda spins as benefit, which is really benefit for Israel, not us.
Egypt would be more valuable than Israel. Egypt was not an invented country and so would not be easy to get military access to. The naval access is used as part of a defensive military plan called projection of power. Naval access is what the US uses now to project military power into the region. In the event that the canal is closed, then land access will be required to project power in the region for projection of power. Either way, to field an offensive campaign in the east would require Israel. We need land to land tanks. Ad hominem attack is ineffective. I have nothing to prove to you and am not obligated to describe whatever inane things you have decided to require for your personal satisfaction.
lol wat? where?
Egypt does as us says now mostly.
Either way, Israel borders Syria Jordan and lebanon Egypt... who is US attacking here with tanks from Israeli territory?
You are not able to article this basic point, again talking in platitudes about some mythical conflict that US will have to fight against somebody that only Israel can allow us to do.
Israel does not resolve Suez canal closure issue. navy is going around anyway. This point does not make sense either.
Again, if we need to land tanks against Iran, turkey (NATO) is right there with a direct land border with Iran. Kuwait would also make more sense since driving distance to Iran.
Then there is KSA. Nobody is landing tanks in Israel to fight a war with Iran lol