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Fuck Cars

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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, "Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND."

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[–] garden_boi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What kind of argument is this? Mostly pedestrian, public transport and bicycle based cities still have utility trucks and vans which you can use when you really need to. It's a pain to navigate the city and the parking fees are high, but it's something you would totally accept to for moving homes.

You can try googling "How to move homes in Amsterdam" and see whether people there manage to move homes.

TLDR: It's not black and white, nobody wants to prohibit EVERY SINGLE MOTORIZED VEHICLE FOR EVERY SINGLE USECASE.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll get downvoted, but most of this community 100% reads like "fuck all cars all the time"

[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm being somewhat flippant, but cars aren't vans.

By that, a van has a primary practical utility of being used to transport a lot of goods.

Cars' primary utility is to transport people.

Yes sometimes people use their car to move a lot of stuff (I've done this myself more times than I can remember) but the vast majority of the time it's just moving you.

Edit: rephrase and more info

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know this, but someone that just happens upon the community is most likely not gonna do enough poking around other posts to see that. Especially with the "deathtrap murderweapon vehicle users" mentality some people here have.

[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why there are different communities. This discussion was had a lot over at the other place, "fuck cars" is not exactly intended as the first contact people have with the thought that 'maybe car centric infrastructure isn't so great?'.

[–] garden_boi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On lemmy, is there some other place which is better suited for those people? (other than the German !oeffentlicherverkehr@feddit.de)