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[โ€“] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We should disincentivize antisocial behavior rather than ban specific technologies. If rental e-scooters left in the middle of the sidewalk are a problem, require rental companies to provide parking where the e-scooter must be docked at the end of the journey, for example.

As long as e-scooters are primarily replacing car trips, they are a net benefit to society. Let's iron out the wrinkles instead of an outright ban.

[โ€“] FeelsGouda@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

It is not the scooter company who decides/limit where scooters need to be parked, it's the city.

[โ€“] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But a big appeal of it is, that you can drop it off anywhere. If you can only unlock and lock them a specific stations, you might as well make a bus/tram/metro line.

[โ€“] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...which is fine. We can't encourage antisocial behavior, and leaving private stuff for free in the middle of the street is antisocial behavior. Free on-street parking for cars is just as bad for everyone, but people have grown accustomed to it and get bothered by e-scooters even though they take a small fraction of the space of a parked car.

[โ€“] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

i fully agree with the parking of cars issue. But for that at least exist systems to reprimand people parking outside of the alloted spots and many cities have parking spots only designated for people actually living there.

For scooters we would need a default fine, of say 20โ‚ฌ per scooter that is not in the correct spot or is parked in a way to hinder other people. The fee would need to be deducted directly from the company, irrespectuve of whether they pass it on.

But that kinda brings us to the point that the whole business model is bullshit, as it can only be profitable with internalizing public goods and externalizing the costs of manageing the dipshits that are misusing them, endangering the safety of other people.