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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Too much untapped potential. There needs to be a proper X-Men and FF movie.

[–] Panron@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Use those to start a new MCU. An MCEU or whatever lol.

I personally think the current iteration has too much baggage. Too many mediocre to downright terrible movies post-Endgame that would have to be slogged through to get the X-Men or whatever else. Too many dropped plotlines, and too much wasted potential.

They've already introduced the multiverse, so they can treat the X-Men as a soft reboot. If it goes well and they have a vision that requires it, they can merge it back into the current MCU to pick up whatever plot they were already building towards, except with hopefully better writers and revitalized creators.

That, plus their output should be limited to 1 or 2 movies per year, max, and no TV shows. Or if they do have TV shows, keep them completely separate, like the Netflix shows were.

If they do that, I'd considering giving them another chance. Otherwise, if it's more or less business as usual, Love and Thunder and GotG3 will have been the last MCU movies for me (mainly because of how bad L&T was).

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

L&T had a Taika Waititi problem, not an MCU problem. ;)

[–] Panron@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

If you want to view it that way, sure, I won't disagree.

But L&T having that problem also contributes to the problems of the MCU at large, where each movie has to be some "villain of the week" that's introduced at the start of the movie and disposed of at the end, with a chance of a tease that the villain may return or perhaps a hint of some larger threat; either of which may ultimately lead nowhere. Up to to Infinity War, they were pretty good about those hints of a large threat, obviously with Infinity War and Endgame paying that off. Since then... What have we actually got? They seem to have finally settled on a new major arc, until some real life drama may have derailed that (maybe Deadpool & Wolverine will advance that plot? idk)

At least in retrospect, I think L&T could have been a more interesting movie if it had completely eschewed the villain a-plot and focused either more or completely on the Jane b-plot. Christian Bale's villain could have made for a really good ~3 movie arc, though, either beginning or ending in L&T. But yeah, the Taika Waititi humor really didn't mesh well with either a- or b-plot.

I think Endgame itself was really the beginning of the current MCU problem. They were in too much of a rush to conclude the Thanos story. Where that movie started with a scripted five year gap, we should have had that five year gap for real. Let us feel the consequences of the Snap the way the characters did. Give us the Hawkeye/Ronin and Black Widow movies (amongst others) that show everyone dealing with the catastrophe. Let the consequences of their failure to stop Thanos really hit home. (And while I'm typing all this, please conclude that story without time travel, but that's an entirely separate rant, lol.)