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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Hawaii state Senator Joy Buenaventura, who is typically a supporter of gun control measures, said the bill would criminalize existing owners of assault rifles, per Hawaii News Now.

She said: "Now, by their mere possession, because we decide to pass this bill, we decide to label them as criminals and that to me, it's unethical and should not be tolerated by this body."

However, Senate Judiciary chair Karl Rhoads disagreed with this take on the bill saying it allowed for "grandfathering."

Sooo... which is it?

But yeah. Obviously America should do this.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Grandfathering requires firearm registration. They did the same thing with the fully automatic firearms ban in the 80's. Now the kids and grandkids of people who previously legally owned firearms have to make a decision. Some of these firearms would be worth 6 figures or more if they were registered, and some have significant historical value, but instead it's a serious felony to own them and they had no say in how it ended up in this state.

Illinois also very recently did a semi auto registration, and a lot of folks did not comply, because they believed that is just the first step to confiscation. Now these people's family are going to have the same problem in a few years.

Just because there is a grandfather clause, doesn't mean it's going to automatically make everyone law abiding. And one person's decision is going to impact their family for generations.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

They did the same thing with the fully automatic firearms ban in the 80’s.

There was no ban in the 80s. For full auto firearms to be legally owned, they had to have been registered since the establishment of the 1934 NFA.

What happened in the 80s was the closing of the registry to prevent new full auto guns from being added, but existing legally owned guns would have already been registered.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

YUP. Seems like an important contradiction where a good journalist could then go to the bill text and determine which one of them is lying.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

Says it "allows" for grandfathering, so I bet they pick & choose who's a criminal and who gets a pass.