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Kind of sharing this because the headline is a little sensationalist and makes it sound like MS is hard right (they are, but not like this) and anti-EU.

I mean, they probably are! Especially if it means MS is barred from monopolies and vertical integration.

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[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 16 points 4 months ago (12 children)

I’ve always insisted that Defender is the best AntiVirus and Intrusion prevention solution for any Windows Machine.

MS has a vested interest in making sure nothing bad gets publicised about their OS. As long as the threat exists, (and barring regulatory restrictions) MS will maintain the best intrusion prevention and detection features.

The AntiVirus industry has a vested interest in scaring people into continuing to pay their subscriptions. There are even some conspiracy theories going around that some AV vendors actually pushed viruses into the wild that they could intercept but their competitors couldn’t.

Apple Computers have a reputation of not having viruses (even through they do) partially due to the Security/Obscurity myth and partially because they lock down macOS and have tightly integrated in-house virus detection. The other reason is that their user base is almost exclusively End-User Retail, which is not currently a profitable target.

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 21 points 4 months ago (7 children)

i find the level of ms apologia unsettling. remember, we're only a few news cycles away from the time ms almost shipped with spyware and keylogger built-in

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Best summary;

The whole problem with Microsoft in general is that they want to be Apple. They want their own hardware & software ecosystem that they rule over with absolute power. But culturally they're not Apple, they're a child that needs 24/7 adult supervision. They can't and won't do security, their track record of handling all types of incidents is abysmal, and they're absolutely terrified of making any changes that might mildly inconvenience enterprise customers. They want all the benefits of controlling their own ecosystem, but will take on exactly zero of the responsibilities. They literally cannot be trusted to secure their own ecosystem and the EU for sure knew this.

https://infosec.exchange/@malwaretech/112837847830156923

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago

and they’re absolutely terrified of making any changes that might mildly inconvenience enterprise customers

Correction, they don't think about such changes at all. There are no other concerns than those of big-paying customers, and even then you need a bunch of big enterprise customers request something for the thing to even end up being considered for the backlog.

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