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I want to draw attention to the elephant in the room.

Leading up to the election, and perhaps even more prominently now, we've been seeing droves of people on the internet displaying a series of traits in common.

  • Claiming to be leftists
  • Dedicating most of their posting to dismantling any power possessed by the left
  • Encouraging leftists not to vote or to vote for third party candidates
  • Highlighting issues with the Democratic party as being disqualifying while ignoring the objectively worse positions held by the Republican party
  • Attacking anyone who promotes defending leftist political power by claiming they are centrists and that the attacker is "to the left of them"
  • Using US foreign policy as a moral cudgel to disempower any attempt at legitimate engagement with the US political system
  • Seemingly doing nothing to actually mount resistance against authoritarianism

When you look at an aerial view of these behaviors in conjunction with one another, what they're accomplishing is pretty plain to see, in my opinion. It's a way of utilizing the moral scrupulousness of the left to cut our teeth out politically. We get so caught up in giving these arguments the benefit of the doubt and of making sure people who claim to be leftists have a platform that we're missing ideological parasites in our midst.

This is not a good-faith discourse. This is not friendly disagreement. This is, largely, not even internal disagreement. It is infiltration, and it's extremely effective.

Before attacking this argument as lacking proof, just do a little thought experiment with me. If there is a vector that allows authoritarians to dismantle all progress made by the left, to demotivate us and to detract from our ability to form coalitions and build solidarity, do you really think they wouldn't take advantage of it?

By refusing to ever question those who do nothing with their time in our spaces but try to drive a wedge between us, to take away our power and make us feel helpless and hopeless, we're giving them exactly that vector. I am telling you, they are using it.

We need to stop letting them. We need to see it for what it is, get the word out, and remember, as the political left, how to use the tools that we have to change society. It starts with us between one another. It starts with what we do in the spaces that we inhabit. They know this, and it's why they're targeting us here.

Stop being an easy target. Stop feeding the cuckoo.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying that everyone should have spent all their time on Lemmy agreeing with each other that Ghengis was bad. I'm saying that spending all our time leading up to that election talking about what a problem Kamala Harris was, and how we shouldn't vote for her, would be weird and suspicious in precisely 100% the exact same fashion as what people were actually doing. Thank you for making my point for me, in fact, that's a really good analogy to explain it.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's not a good analogy for your point, it's just replacing one person everyone agrees as bad with another while keeping everything else the same, if Ghenghis Khan was running and everyone on Lemmy hated him I wouldn't waste much time talking about how bad he was either. The analogy is 100% pointless if you use it that way, and it's grasping pretty hard to act like you're owning me with it, it only makes sense if you already agree with your position. But then, I guess you're more interested in circlejerking anyway, so go for it.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] thief_of_names@beehaw.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Don't bother. I've spoken with Objection before and they really are a card carrying tankie who don't believe in democracy.