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[–] orenishii@feddit.nl 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think 1500 euro on a house will not make a big difference. Last set I put on a roof was about that price (50 euro per panel, 400 for inverter rest for mounting)

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's 1500 here. 3000 for the mandated concrete walkway. Another 5k for the required hard wired fire alarms.

Just examples of things that are reasonable sounding that add up quickly. I hate to sound like some libertarian douchbag, but we need to be careful we don't regulate our way out of affordable shelter.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

The solar panels make the shelter more affordable. Whatever you end up paying extra on mortgage, you're going to save more on the power bill.

Our current house has everything electric, including warm water, heating, and transportation (electric car). Our power bill is way lower than our previous apartment of less than half the size.

In April alone our power bill will be around -6 euros, and the summer is ahead of us. December/January were around 400 euros, so I expect a balance of around 1000 euros for the whole year.

We paid 120 euros a month before (so 1400 a year), not including heating, warm water or charging the car. Heating and water were part of a 400 euro "hausgeld" payment that included garbage collection, lift costs, building maintenance, etc, so let's say 200 a month. Car let's say 550 a year (15k km a year, half of it long trips so just counting 7k changing locally). So we are saving 2.5k a year, maybe 3k, in bills.

The whole system (panels, installation, battery, etc) cost 27k total, so our mortgage is about 1.5k more a year extra (assuming 0 upfront investment) than in would be without solar.

So more than twice the size of the shelter and savings of at least 1k a year, very pessimistic calculation. Maybe as high as 6k, if we extrapolate the old costs with the size.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While I have no idea what the market is like there, here in the US, most of the desirable locations have housing price dominated by land. According to my insurer, full replacement cost of rebuilding my home on the current is less than 1/3 the cost of buying the home. Does it really matter if building code makes that replacement house a little nicer, when 2/3 the cost is the location?

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It does, when that additional expense is the difference between being able to buy the home and not being able to. Or when it makes a difference in a developer's decision to build or not build a home.